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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 07-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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Posted By Fojar
Out of curiosity why are we saying that something...

Out of curiosity why are we saying that something being depressing is bad? Pathos is an integral part of a compelling story and without it there's no catharsis in future climaxes.

If you're using...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 07-07-2018, 06:01 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
1:10 - 1:30 Kul Tiras/Dalaran/Theramore? It's...

1:10 - 1:30 Kul Tiras/Dalaran/Theramore? It's Jaina's theme but she has strong ties to all 3.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 07-07-2018, 12:31 PM
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Posted By Fojar
So I was humming the Arathi Warfront Alliance...

So I was humming the Arathi Warfront Alliance music to myself when I noticed something about it that I get the sense I am the first to notice because I'm a giant weirdo
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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 07-04-2018, 02:22 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
This book really treats the Alliance as though...

This book really treats the Alliance as though it's never interacted with any undead in a non-hostile manner ever and that was another thing that bothered me. Even if you're going to ignore things...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 07-04-2018, 01:05 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
I base my views on the evidence, and this is the...

I base my views on the evidence, and this is the first concrete evidence of "humans with skin conditions" we've gotten so far, although it's still really hard to square with the Forsaken's actions as...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 07-04-2018, 02:26 AM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
I'm on the cusp of finishing the book myself and...

I'm on the cusp of finishing the book myself and my only real objection is that for the whole book the relationship between the Alliance and the Forsaken is treated as one where the Alliance are the...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-28-2018, 02:52 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
The majority position is a combination of apathy...

The majority position is a combination of apathy and base emotional drama. Blizzard writes for the lowest common denominator because that's by far the largest segment of their playerbase and when it...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-27-2018, 11:20 AM
Replies: 6,082
Views: 353,936
Posted By Fojar
Why the fuck wasn't Wyrmbane in charge of the...

Why the fuck wasn't Wyrmbane in charge of the Battle for Lordaeron, he wouldn't have been blindsided by Blight

He's like Saurfang if Saurfang lived up to the mythology surrounding him and wasn't a...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-27-2018, 09:52 AM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
The Alliance doesn't burn as many ships because...

The Alliance doesn't burn as many ships because why blow them up in the harbor when the enemy doesn't know they're there and you can detonate them at a more decisive moment like Blizzard is really...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-26-2018, 10:36 PM
Replies: 6,082
Views: 353,936
Posted By Fojar
I didn't realize how much I needed Wyrmbane 76...

I didn't realize how much I needed Wyrmbane 76 until now
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-26-2018, 06:06 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
Hey remember a few pages back when someone said...

Hey remember a few pages back when someone said that they wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard put Valeera on the Horde simply because she's a blood elf in spite of her backstory and character

Guess...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-26-2018, 12:16 AM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
For the first time ever we get to destroy a Horde...

For the first time ever we get to destroy a Horde quest hub
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-25-2018, 11:02 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
Hoo boy do we ever fuck up the Horde in...

Hoo boy do we ever fuck up the Horde in Stormsong. I'll enjoy leveling through this I think.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-25-2018, 04:51 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
Garona is as much Draenei as she is Orc and it's...

Garona is as much Draenei as she is Orc and it's ironic that people forget that because she has green skin.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-25-2018, 04:09 PM
Replies: 6,082
Views: 353,936
Posted By Fojar
It also further implies the trend of Blizzard...

It also further implies the trend of Blizzard treating undeath as a magical allegiance changer even with nominal free will which is by far the most irritating aspect of how its been treated since...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-24-2018, 09:40 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
Hey Garona if you don't want to fight against the...

Hey Garona if you don't want to fight against the Alliance for the Horde, especially under Sylvanas, maybe you should consider not doing that.

Like just walk away. Sure Sylvanas will be mad but...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-21-2018, 08:50 PM
Replies: 6,082
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Posted By Fojar
Horde already had all those zones and it doesn't...

Horde already had all those zones and it doesn't matter all that much when it has no way to resupply. Maybe Horde can resupply by sea on the East Coast of Arathi but without controlling Stromgarde...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-20-2018, 05:10 PM
Replies: 6,082
Views: 353,936
Posted By Fojar
So as the Lordaeron scenario becomes more...

So as the Lordaeron scenario becomes more polished I'm curious about the blight.

Until now it has more or less just been treated as a chemical weapon but now it seems to be also capable of raising...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-19-2018, 05:58 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
Considering those things are all that distinguish...

Considering those things are all that distinguish them from the Alliance in the absence of them being douchebags, yes the Horde shouldn't exist. There is no narrative reason for it to exist and...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-19-2018, 02:23 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
It's because the Horde as a faction is so...

It's because the Horde as a faction is so thematically bankrupt that anything but fighting Quilboar in the desert or something along those lines doesn't feel "Horde."
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-18-2018, 06:04 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
If they were going to do this why make her holy...

If they were going to do this why make her holy undead at all
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-18-2018, 03:55 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
Ding ding ding. There are lines in the book where...

Ding ding ding. There are lines in the book where she says "Oh yeah Lordaeron is the Forsaken's now" or "I'm not a member of the Alliance" but all of that is before the book's climax where at the...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 06-18-2018, 02:39 PM
Replies: 6,082
Views: 353,936
Posted By Fojar
It would require knowing a lot more about the...

It would require knowing a lot more about the afterlife in WoW cosmology. What if the Forsaken don't want the Troll afterlife? What if Sylvanas didn't go to a shitty place because that's where undead...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-18-2018, 01:49 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
Did you read anything I posted Because it...

Did you read anything I posted

Because it looks like in lieu of doing so you're just repeating your original position but louder
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 06-17-2018, 11:00 PM
Replies: 129
Views: 5,642
Posted By Fojar
Unless the effects of the blight are handwaved...

Unless the effects of the blight are handwaved away the Forsaken aren't returning to Lordaeron with Undercity as their capital.

Wartable missions definitely suggest that the Horde's presence in...
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