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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-18-2018, 05:50 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
For WCIII, I meant the roles that were played by...

For WCIII, I meant the roles that were played by the Horde (in killing Mannoroth and helping defeat Archimonde) and the Scourge (in assassinating Mal'Ganis and Tichondrius), both of which were...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-18-2018, 03:07 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
There is an inherent lesson from WC1 and WC3, and...

There is an inherent lesson from WC1 and WC3, and it is this: nigh-almighty beings should NOT attempt to meddle in the affairs of mortals. Because mortals are dangerous. You will lose control of...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-18-2018, 04:34 AM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Post Well yes, rejoining the Alliance with the Kingdom...

Well yes, rejoining the Alliance with the Kingdom of Lordaeron's traitors, probably those in the eastern regions sandwiched between Quel'thalas and Stromgarde/Khaz Modan. Think of Garithos' forces...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-17-2018, 12:32 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
I see things about keeping the same tech trees......

I see things about keeping the same tech trees...
I see High/Blood Elves as political factions...
I see an orcish backstory about abandoning fel magic because it was damaging Draenor...

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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-17-2018, 03:27 AM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
(I meant the "I blame Metzen" comment as a...

(I meant the "I blame Metzen" comment as a half-joke, sorry. It sounded funnier in my head.)

Lemme see what you guys have been writing here...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-16-2018, 07:53 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Hmm. You might have me, after all this time....

Hmm.

You might have me, after all this time. The first year on that timeline is 559. Plus 40 years. So if Lothar had present day at 599, that's really close to Garona's 598.

And that's sad....
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-16-2018, 04:04 AM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
That is one of the timeline points on which I...

That is one of the timeline points on which I disagree with some of you. I still read the italics as intro and outro text. I'm not sold on Lothar ending his timeline with a mark five years ago,...
Forum: Halls of Lordaeron 11-14-2018, 03:54 AM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Talking And yes, that article confirms my concern that...

And yes, that article confirms my concern that the narrative is using "assigned sex" and "sex" synonymously, as if a person's "sex" is actually the one that's a man-made invention.






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Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-13-2018, 04:39 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
I mean, the orcs' magical relationships are...

I mean, the orcs' magical relationships are different in all three games. WCI has in my opinion the most elegant style, with warlocks and necrolytes representing two rival magical schools as distinct...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-13-2018, 11:17 AM
Replies: 77
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Posted By BaronGrackle
But here's the rub: over half of the battles in...

But here's the rub: over half of the battles in Warcraft II are linked to naval combat. The physical geography of everything north of continental Azeroth... Baradin Bay, Loch Modan, Darrowmere,...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-12-2018, 04:48 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
If you go that path, the Forsaken could use new...

If you go that path, the Forsaken could use new UNITS. And I don't know what they'd even be.
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-11-2018, 08:20 PM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Well hey. The Grunts have helmets instead of...

Well hey. The Grunts have helmets instead of thrallic ponytails. No retcon there, despite recent art. So that's one thing not to worry about!
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-11-2018, 03:47 PM
Replies: 77
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Yet, I think there's something to be said for...

Yet, I think there's something to be said for playing a mission without any hero units. It's a different sort of feel. You can recreate this in some of the WCIII missions by ignoring your main...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-10-2018, 07:43 AM
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Crossed Axes (War2) You know what they need? A campaign that uses WoW...

You know what they need? A campaign that uses WoW Battlegrounds as RTS battles. Alterac Valley and all that stuff.

If they had a level for Tol Barad and did it extremely well, that'd satisfy a WoW...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-09-2018, 05:47 AM
Replies: 77
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Posted By BaronGrackle
Oh, I'll watch them soon. I'll watch all the...

Oh, I'll watch them soon. I'll watch all the cutscenes. But if it's the same gameplay...

EDIT: Of course the answer is fan content from a possibly improved editor. We'll see what time brings.
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-09-2018, 04:01 AM
Replies: 80
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Posted By BaronGrackle
They don't have to stop being villainous. :)

They don't have to stop being villainous. :)
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-09-2018, 03:30 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 1,706
Posted By BaronGrackle
Post I'd need naval tech trees as distinct as the land...

I'd need naval tech trees as distinct as the land and air tech trees, instead of everyone buying the same things from a Goblin Shipyard. The Command and Conquer/Red Alert series has managed that for...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-08-2018, 08:27 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 1,144
Posted By BaronGrackle
It's a mistake to think of the Scourge as generic...

It's a mistake to think of the Scourge as generic doomsday villains. They want what many religions claim to offer: eternal life. Actual, honest to goodness, immortality. For themselves and their...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-08-2018, 06:37 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 1,706
Posted By BaronGrackle
I'm at peace with WCIII. Its gameplay and tech...

I'm at peace with WCIII. Its gameplay and tech tree diversity are just... fantastic. And its lore, while not always my cup of tea, has its own appeal as well.

If they were hobbits? WCI and WCII...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-05-2018, 06:50 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 1,706
Posted By BaronGrackle
I wonder if "Rend" and "Maim" will be retitled. ...

I wonder if "Rend" and "Maim" will be retitled.

Hmm. I wonder if the naval battles in Frozen Throne will be retooled (including the Outland ones), or if they'll be eliminated. But man... can you...
Forum: WarCraft RTS Discussion 11-04-2018, 10:37 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 1,706
Posted By BaronGrackle
Now you can play through Arthas's story knowing...

Now you can play through Arthas's story knowing that Muradin isn't really sacrificed, and Mal'ganis isn't really betrayed/killed by Ner'zhul.

EDIT: But seriously, I wonder what the odds are of...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 10-30-2018, 02:48 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 963
Posted By BaronGrackle
What you got for me? People hated Warlords of...

What you got for me? People hated Warlords of Draenor, but I liked some of what we got in terms of orc culture and military heritage.

When you don't play the game, it's hard to harvest information...
Forum: Halls of Lordaeron 10-29-2018, 07:03 PM
Replies: 57,617
Views: 1,726,782
Posted By BaronGrackle
The narrative I've heard is that "sex" and...

The narrative I've heard is that "sex" and "gender" are unrelated. Sex is defined by a person's body, while gender is defined by a person's self-identity.

I've seen terms like "cisgender" come...
Forum: Halls of Lordaeron 10-29-2018, 05:49 PM
Replies: 57,617
Views: 1,726,782
Posted By BaronGrackle
I started to read the article, but I had to take...

I started to read the article, but I had to take a break when it referred to "the sex they were assigned at birth". As if doctors are picking a person's sex at random.

You hear that phrase all the...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 10-29-2018, 05:39 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 963
Posted By BaronGrackle
They might be planning to anchor a ship off the...

They might be planning to anchor a ship off the coast. Then it could shell Sylvanas, but she wouldn't be able to return fire.

(I miss this.)
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