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Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion Yesterday, 06:00 AM
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Posted By Marthen
I sometimes wonder if I live in some alternate...

I sometimes wonder if I live in some alternate universe where all the bad the past expansions had done was far more severe. Otherwise, it is virtually impossible for me to comprehend how can some...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 12-11-2018, 02:50 AM
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Posted By Marthen
Not so much surprising if you remember my...

Not so much surprising if you remember my comparisons of the reception in the Americas, Europe, and the East.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 12-11-2018, 02:47 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,385
Posted By Marthen
Just as usual. People who picked the plain and...

Just as usual. People who picked the plain and generic faction would complain that the more distinct yet broken faction gets more distinct, broken races, all the while clamoring for more generic and...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-29-2018, 02:03 PM
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Posted By Marthen
The decision to cut the high elves came way...

The decision to cut the high elves came way before the introduction of the faction system, though. Staats stresses that Blizzard was pushed to the ends of their limits with World of Warcraft...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-29-2018, 08:45 AM
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Posted By Marthen
:D -------- But in all seriousness, the...

:D

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But in all seriousness, the diary only covers the development of the original game, so it only speaks of their (as in the team developing the original) vision and design, not of the...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-28-2018, 07:15 AM
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Posted By Marthen
The diary actually beautifully illustrates what...

The diary actually beautifully illustrates what the true issue is; simply put, most of the team found the Scourge far cooler than the concept of the Forsaken, and even after Metzen came up with the...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-28-2018, 01:35 AM
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Posted By Marthen
To be frank, even if the Warcraft III Horde...

To be frank, even if the Warcraft III Horde lacked any industrial themes the Warcraft II Horde had, the Warcraft II Horde still primarily utilized bone, stone, and leather as building materials, with...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-25-2018, 12:57 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Absolutely agreed. This is one of the reasons why...

Absolutely agreed. This is one of the reasons why my rework does not have the elves immortal, nor are their polities direct continuations of the ancient empire, the eredar and the draenei are...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-25-2018, 12:52 PM
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Views: 2,385
Posted By Marthen
Some of that is in the book, some was said by...

Some of that is in the book, some was said by Staats during the AMAs, some I know from my private conversations.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-25-2018, 10:25 AM
Replies: 58
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Posted By Marthen
I am not particularly sure how many people...

I am not particularly sure how many people actually mean the night elves exactly as they were in Reign of Chaos when saying this.
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-25-2018, 08:53 AM
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Views: 2,385
Posted By Marthen
This map comes from 1999, Staats became part of...

This map comes from 1999, Staats became part of the team only in 2000. Plus as he clarified to me, he was talking about the time when they decided to make the game bi-hard-factional.

He also does...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-25-2018, 04:28 AM
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Posted By Marthen
Well, I guess that is one way to look at it. :D

Well, I guess that is one way to look at it. :D
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-24-2018, 10:37 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,385
Posted By Marthen
Well, this conceptual map comes from the times...

Well, this conceptual map comes from the times before the team decided to make the game factional, so I presume these colors do not represent factions per se.
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-21-2018, 03:21 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Actually, even Warcraft II treats them as...

Actually, even Warcraft II treats them as separate thanks to this sentence;



If their might needs be combined, it means they exist as separate entities each with their own might. Ultimately,...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-20-2018, 02:47 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Apart from the retcons created by merging the two...

Apart from the retcons created by merging the two campaign into a single narrative and making the player characters into lore characters (Doomhammer for the orc player character, Lothar for the human...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-18-2018, 03:33 PM
Replies: 105
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Posted By Marthen
While absolutely true for Warcraft I (and I'd say...

While absolutely true for Warcraft I (and I'd say Warcraft II for Gul'dan), I am not so sure about Warcraft III, specifically because of the Kaldorei and Medivh. This has long been my primary problem...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-18-2018, 01:15 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
These are already specific designs you use in...

These are already specific designs you use in your "reimagination". You can't use these to argue that "the world needs guardians, otherwise it does not make sense" based off of historical...
Forum: World of WarCraft Discussion 11-18-2018, 03:13 AM
Replies: 58
Views: 2,385
Posted By Marthen
Some things from the book I shared on the...

Some things from the book I shared on the discord.

This is the original map created for Team 2 by Metzen in 1999, before the actual production started.
...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-17-2018, 03:44 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Sorry, I suppose I didn't catch that. :/

Sorry, I suppose I didn't catch that. :/
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-17-2018, 02:33 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
I don't think that particular is in any way...

I don't think that particular is in any way possible given all the figures provided in Warcraft II Manual (I'll get to this in the timeline thread).

Also, not sure why to blame Metzen, time has...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-16-2018, 03:00 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Not sure where you are coming from with this...

Not sure where you are coming from with this whole talk about "successive ages". Nowhere have I asserted that the end of the guardians would classify the end of better times; on the contrary, it...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-16-2018, 09:36 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
I am not particularly fond of time travel or any...

I am not particularly fond of time travel or any sort of time travel shenanigans, so I don't think that'd click with me.

When it comes to more guardians, ultimately, I feel the whole point of the...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-16-2018, 04:30 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
I am not sure I follow there. Yes, it is the...

I am not sure I follow there. Yes, it is the outro and intro to the chronicle, and this outro and intro is dated as happening some forty years after Aegwynn's first arrival to Azeroth, and...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-15-2018, 02:37 PM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
There's dozens of possible explanations, each...

There's dozens of possible explanations, each more or less plausible given how the entire universe is structured. For example, one could easily write it so that unbeknownst to Ner'zhul or anyone...
Forum: WarCraft Lore Discussion 11-15-2018, 11:20 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,269
Posted By Marthen
Then we disagree on the fundamentals and there is...

Then we disagree on the fundamentals and there is little point in going forwards in this discussion for me.
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