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Old 05-17-2016, 05:22 PM
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Was there anything of note about the draenei?
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:51 PM
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That is the worst opinion I've ever read!
Well, Rise of the Horde is not exactly a good book, so...
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Old 05-17-2016, 10:59 PM
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Well this just goes to show.

Warcraft 1 SUCKS FUCKING BALLS.

also whats bonds of brotherhood. Never heard of that shit and that sounds boring.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:05 AM
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That seems odd, wouldn't they just kill the Redwalkers to stop them poisoning the spirits?
They do, but it is too late. The book doesn't really state exactly HOW they poison spirits either. None of it makes sense.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:12 AM
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Was there anything of note about the draenei?
Not at all. In fact, even though they are describe as playable draenei, their role in the story is much more like the broken. They live on the margins and only seem to ever be slaughtered by orcs. Durotan says something like sometimes they used to share hunting areas with them, but they worked it out peacefully. They certainly aren't a power. No mention of Shattrath of Auchindoun or even any outpost at all. They seem to be a hidden people.

Draka spent time with them, and has a crystal pendant around her neck that was given to her by a draenei. Draka and Garona both speak Draenic. Suprisingly, Gul'dan does not, which implies that Garona learned it elsewhere, and not at the behest of her master. Maybe she is still half draenei after all.
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:35 AM
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That seems odd, wouldn't they just kill the Redwalkers to stop them poisoning the spirits?
I just went over some bits again. It seems there are 2 causes:

It is heavily implied that fel magic is killing the land (though the orcs don't know this).

This creates a lack of food across Draenor. In the north, they are not hit so hard because they are further away from Gul'dan, but it hits them eventually.

In response to this the Redwalkers, who refuse to join the Horde, begin covering themselves with animal blood to deter other orcs from encroaching on their territory. They start to raid Frostwolf lands, and get their butts kicked. They hatch a plan to destroy the Frostwolves.

As the food situation gets worse, the Redwalkers kill a bunch of draenei on their hunting lands and turn to cannibalism. They start eating orc and draenei alike, and wearing their blood.

Their plan to destroy the Frostwolves is to desecrate the Seat of the Spirits and draw them north, knowing that the spirits would call their shaman, and the Frostwolves, being the most shamanic, would follow. There they would set a trap.

Their desecration make the spirits sick; volcanoes erupt, the earth collapses, earth burns, air is foul, etc.

So the Redwalkers aren't behind the cataclysm; it seems Gul'dan and fel is. But they make it way worse by killing the spirits. The massive plot hole of why, if lack of food was so bad that you turned to cannibalism, you would destroy the elemental spirits that govern nature, is never addressed. Golden gonna Golden.

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Old 05-18-2016, 06:37 PM
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Thank you so much for the info!
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:17 PM
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The Frostwolves live in (...) a permanent settlement.
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I suppose this will not be the medium for a fully developed Blood River War, for example.
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Old 05-22-2016, 01:18 AM
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It really isn't a big deal. The book states that they used to be nomadic, until they settled beneath Greatfather Mountain, which explains why they can have things like writing systems and 1000s of years worth of recorded lore, etc. Just think of it in terms of the transition of the Tauren from nomadic to pastoral.
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Old 05-22-2016, 02:50 AM
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Or they could've been semi-nomadic, like Mongols or many of their precursors and related peoples.
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