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Old 05-31-2015, 10:21 AM
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Peons may not be mentally handicapped, but a lot of the stuff they say or do is kinda dumb. They also lack any long or short term understanding of consequences; demonstrated by their constant slacking on the job.

Anyway, on topic.
1. Grom Hellscream
2. Orgrim Doomhammer

I also dislike most Frostwolves with a few exceptions.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:12 AM
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I liked Kargath in BTDP. Both the game and the book, actually.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:56 AM
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:32 PM
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Old 07-01-2015, 01:08 AM
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Teron'gor and his pretty mouth.
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Old 07-01-2015, 05:04 AM
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Turns out orcs have quite a few likeable characters, especially compared to other races. Who knew?
Anyway, in no particular order(except for Thrall being first, but even that changes from time to time):

-Thrall
-Orgrim Doomhammer
-Durotan
-Draka
-Grom Hellscream

Special mentions(also in no particular order):
-Teron Gorefiend
-Ner'zhul
-Blackhand the elder
-Gul'dan
-Koak(from the Strength of Steel story)
-Tornheart family
-Saurfang(both the son and elder)
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Old 07-01-2015, 07:26 AM
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Peons may not be mentally handicapped, but a lot of the stuff they say or do is kinda dumb. They also lack any long or short term understanding of consequences; demonstrated by their constant slacking on the job.
Same could be said for a lot of Orcs to be fair (or people in real life for that matter). Grom didn't look beyond killing Cenarius when he took the demon blood, Thrall didn't look at the consequences of Garrosh being made Warchief etc.

For me it'd be Ner'zhul (mainly for the Lich King stuff), Gul'dan (for being unabashedly evil and not trying to hide what he's done like the rest of the Orcs) and Teron Gorefiend (because the WCII Death Knights in general were awesome).
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:15 PM
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Pre-Cata Thrall
Grom Hellscream (fuck Grommash)
Original Gul'dan
Teron Gorefiend
Both Blackhands
Saurfang
Gonna add Gorebelly to the list as well. He's more fit to be Hellscream's successor than Garrosh ever was. And that name is simply badass.



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Old 07-05-2015, 08:09 PM
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:01 PM
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Ariok Son of Eitrigg.

Of his own free will turned against his clan to do the right thing. Later sacrificing his "Orcanity" to save the hero in tanaan. Then became the Incredible Orc.

I still like Thrall somewhat.

Kargath, he punched Terrok so hard he became deader than he already was.

Mankrik, he loved his wife.

Random old Orc who throws torches at quillboars while cursing at them, can't remember his name.
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Old 11-07-2015, 08:06 PM
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The original teron gorefiend had some potential.
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Old 11-07-2015, 09:46 PM
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Garrosh!

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Old 11-07-2015, 11:08 PM
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1. Gul'dan
2. Garrosh
3. Grom Hellscream
4. Orgrim Doomhammer
5. Draka
6. Lokra
7. Varok Saurfang
8. Ner'zhul
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:17 PM
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orgrim doomhammer.

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Old 11-07-2015, 11:38 PM
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:12 AM
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Old 12-28-2015, 09:36 PM
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- in no particular order

Nazgrim - pretty sure he was my favorite of all
(we have a lot of history with him, all the way from WotLK when I first started playing - at least in Blizz severs -... a true loyalist of the Horde, no matter the cost - plus David Lodge is amazing)
"Thrall's balls!"

Drek'thar
(wish he appeared more in WoW, I had orgasms doing the new Nagrand quests and I truly love his story and shady past)

Orgrim Doomhammer
(I liked him as the backstabber, but his white-washed version is fine too. I raged like hell when he died in Talador in such a stupid storyline)

Blackhand
(his WoD version was equally awesome)

Rehgar
(him and Drek'thar are the reasons I play a shaman - hope we get stuff on him now he's finally in-game)

Rexxar
(main reason I started playing WoW back in 2008-ish. I was a little kid that loved his campaign in WC3 and wanted to be just like him - you can imagine my inner-child screaming with the new Melee Survival)


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Lokra of the Frostwolves
Pre-Cata Thrall, I liked him, but his superman persona bores me and I hope he gets less pathetic in Legion
Durotan
Ga'nar RIP
Nazgrel, I hope he does something in LegDay besides being a Warrior follower
Lantresor of the Blade is interesting as well
Saurfang Sr. and Saurfang Jr. Dranosh could've been a great Warchief
Ariok


And I personally like the WoD version of most Chieftains a lot. Besides Grom (fuck Grommash [2]) and maybe Kargath (even though I LOVED the Shattered Hand new Black-Metal masochist identity), they're all amazing. They get defeated in mediocre fights and rushed, terrible storylines, but I like their personalities... Blackhand is the only one with an interesting end. Ner'zhul has a great dungeon as well. Durotan is maybe better than his other version and Kilrogg is also interesting.

The new clan identities are brilliant as well. I wish we could take that (probably one of the best things in WoD) and apply to our Horde. The Blackrock could be reborn under Ariok's leadership since I believe the Dark Horde one was ended. That young shaman Drek'thar trained could lead the Frostwolf (maybe even Nazgrel, not sure how old he is now) and someone else could lead the Warsong.
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Oh, -him-.
Any particular reason for the dislike? The story is a bit hammy but that's mild compared to most Blizzard lore these days. He's no Zaela but he's serviceable and probably the best chance the Dragonmaw have to not all be relegated to expulsion from the Horde with the current narrative.
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Any particular reason for the dislike? The story is a bit hammy but that's mild compared to most Blizzard lore these days. He's no Zaela but he's serviceable and probably the best chance the Dragonmaw have to not all be relegated to expulsion from the Horde with the current narrative.
The whole plot of his story was that he WASN'T a dragonmaw, that the orcs were evil, slavedriving, 'brittle', racist people, and that he wasn't like them.
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The whole plot of his story was that he WASN'T a dragonmaw, that the orcs were evil, slavedriving, 'brittle', racist people, and that he wasn't like them.
Fair but I'd argue that with the narrative Blizzard is pushing with Zaela leading the majority of the old guard to die with Garrosh I don't see how that version can exist in the current Horde any longer. I'm not a huge fan of it but that is the way they went with it and I'd rather a tamer Dragonmaw then lose another distinctive clan.

I also disagree on it painting the entirety of orcs like that. Having just read it then, it zeroes on Garrosh pretty hard for the evil part.
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Old 04-10-2016, 06:20 PM
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Fair but I'd argue that with the narrative Blizzard is pushing with Zaela leading the majority of the old guard to die with Garrosh I don't see how that version can exist in the current Horde any longer. I'm not a huge fan of it but that is the way they went with it and I'd rather a tamer Dragonmaw then lose another distinctive clan.

I also disagree on it painting the entirety of orcs like that. Having just read it then, it zeroes on Garrosh pretty hard for the evil part.
My point is, clans aren't allowed to be 'good' anymore, period.
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My point is, clans aren't allowed to be 'good' anymore, period.
Don't disagree at all but if that's your endgame then isn't Koak perfect for a potential Dragonmaw leader? Yes it would be a complete reforging of the clan from what they were but at the very least it would keep its identity. There's also nothing saying that you can't have the old guard grumbling in the background too. Isn't that a much better endgame then relegating all our future actions with them to mobs we occasionally kill if they're lore relevant?
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My point is, clans aren't allowed to be 'good' anymore, period.
Aside from the Frostwolf clan pretty much...

I disliked the handling of the Bleeding Hollow in WoD..
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Don't disagree at all but if that's your endgame then isn't Koak perfect for a potential Dragonmaw leader? Yes it would be a complete reforging of the clan from what they were but at the very least it would keep its identity. There's also nothing saying that you can't have the old guard grumbling in the background too. Isn't that a much better endgame then relegating all our future actions with them to mobs we occasionally kill if they're lore relevant?
I didn't read the story all the way through so I can't give an honest answer, I only know from what I did read he seems a lot like Post WC3 thrall.

An orc who's only good because he throws away everything about being an orc.

A shallow collection of 'reformed bad guy' tropes, and a cuddly morality pet.
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I didn't read the story all the way through so I can't give an honest answer, I only know from what I did read he seems a lot like Post WC3 thrall.

An orc who's only good because he throws away everything about being an orc.

A shallow collection of 'reformed bad guy' tropes, and a cuddly morality pet.
All fair for the most part but i don't think it really goes into the orcish side enough to say he's abandoned their ideals. The only mentions they have beyond one narrow mention of Thrall liberating his internment camp, are Garrosh and Zaela/The current Dragonmaw. Both are not good comparisons for that kind of analysis.

Yeah if we trust in modern Blizzard they will probably fuck that angle up but it's not written in stone.
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