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Old 11-10-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default WoW Comic Issue #0 Online

MTV Multiplayer has gotten an exclusive to post World of WarCraft Issue #0, a short prequel of sorts to the comic series. It's only five pages long, but it gives a little bit of backstory for the comic which hits later this month. Thanks WoW Insider.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:37 PM
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Very interesting... but why is a Tauren on page 3? Supposedly BEFORE the orcs went to Kalimdor?

Meh... I still like the art. Sounds like it will be a cool story.

EDIT: Whoops, its technically page 3. Forgot to not count the cover.

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Old 11-10-2007, 04:42 PM
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Um...what tauren?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:46 PM
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http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-co...issue0_pg3.jpg

The last one on the right side, looks very much like a Tauren.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:47 PM
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Look at the bottom right image, the creature on the ground under Rehgar's foot. Does that not look like a Tauren to you?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:49 PM
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I thought it was a troll lol.

lorelol?
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:50 PM
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If it was a troll it would not have a cow ear, and its tusks would be coming out of its mouth, not its head.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:53 PM
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If it was a troll it would not have a cow ear, and its tusks would be coming out of its mouth, not its head.
I didn't see the ears and thought those were tusks coming from it's mouth Just glanced at it mind you.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:01 PM
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what about the night elf behind the human commander from the second war battle picture, 2nd lorelol?? dont say it is high elf, it definately has blueish skin
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:12 PM
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Yeah, thats a stupid mistake because someone from Blizzard could have noted that out. >_<
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:35 PM
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And so it begins.....


LORELOL!?
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:02 PM
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Very interesting... but why is a Tauren on page 3? Supposedly BEFORE the orcs went to Kalimdor?

Meh... I still like the art. Sounds like it will be a cool story.

EDIT: Whoops, its technically page 3. Forgot to not count the cover.
I have seen reaction to the Tauren in that arena. This is my personal view:

"Eventually Rehgar escaped and returned to the only life he knew, fighting in underground contests"

First: Present. Rehgar is master of groups of gladiators that fight in Dire Maul Arena. You can see goblins in those preview pages shown at MTV.

Second: Past. That quote above says Rehgar escaped the orc internment camps. Where could he ever accomplish to become a gladiator? With the goblins. Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn Vale sounds ok. Even Thrall was trained to be a gladiator and Blackmoore became richer by pitting Thrall at the Durnholde arena.

So, now that this is explained and behind us, let's go back to the goblins.

- What race is the first mate of Booty Bay? A tauren (Fleet Master Seahorn - Blackwater Raiders) standing next to Baron Revilgaz.

Where else do we see tauren?

- Bloodsail Buccaneers. (Garr Salthoof - Tauren in the Bloodsail ships by south coast of Booty Bay)
- Defias Brotherhood (Mr. Smite - Tauren, The Ship's First Mate - Deadmines).
- The companion of that undead guy Baron Valimar Mordis in Warcraft Manga: The Sunwell Trilogy was also a Tauren (Trag Highmountain).

Whether all or any of those many tauren in Eastern Kingdoms are from the Grimtotem or ex-Bloodhoof's tribe exiles that is debatable. There have been Tauren in Eastern Kingdoms. That tauren on the ground within the comic book# 0 doesn't mean it is a lorelol.

Note: Lands of Mystery says Undermine city has 40,000 inhabitants. 1% is Tauren = 400 Tauren live in Undermine City.

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Old 11-10-2007, 08:06 PM
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I´m inclined to agree with Medieval here, Tauren aren´t exactly a secretive race and lately Blizzard seem to put them on Eastern Kingdoms before the events of Warcraft 3.
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:08 PM
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That's not possible considering Kalimdor was hidden by magical mists prior to the Third War.....
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:16 PM
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Second: Past. That quote above says Rehgar escaped the orc internment camps. Where could he ever accomplish to become a gladiator? With the goblins. Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn Vale sounds ok. Even Thrall was trained to be a gladiator and Blackmoore became richer by pitting Thrall at the Durnholde arena.
I don't get what you mean by all that. So he worked with the Goblins, but lets not forget that even the Goblins were not around Kalimdor for a very long time. Kalimdor was a "lost" land, and all races kept denying its existance minus a few that were "in the know"

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So, now that this is explained and behind us, let's go back to the goblins. What race is the first mate of Booty Bay? A tauren. Where else do we see tauren? Bloodsail Buccaneers. Defias Brotherhood (Deadmines). The companion of that undead guy in Warcraft Manga: The Sunwell Trilogy was also a Tauren. Whether Grimtotem or part of Bloodhoof's tribe that is debatable. There have been Tauren in Eastern Kingdoms. That tauren on the ground within the comic book# 0 doesn't mean it is a lorelol.
All the Tauren we see on the Eastern Kingdoms now are because travel between the two continents are more open. Its like saying that seeing Gnomes on Kalimdor means that they have always existed on Kalimdor, but no, they are recently coming to the continent.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:06 PM
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Aren't there Tauren in Northrend too?
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:19 PM
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I don't get what you mean by all that. So he worked with the Goblins, but lets not forget that even the Goblins were not around Kalimdor for a very long time. Kalimdor was a "lost" land, and all races kept denying its existance minus a few that were "in the know".
The illustration with Rehgar fighting that tauren doesn't say he is in Kalimdor at that point. It is a flashback of his past.

The last block to the left, it says Rehgar was untamable.
So he was kicked out of the orc internment camps and sold to a human named Lord Agrovane. He was used as gladiator on the human contest arenas.

Then he escaped from Lord Agrovane, and the comic book panel says he returned to his gladiator life but this time on underground contests. Since he escaped the humans, the only other possible place he could have done gladiator battle is with the goblins, or even pirates -- which is composed of various races.

Just because Humans haven't gone to Kalimdor in the Second War, doesn't mean others havent come from Kalimdor to Eastern Kingdoms.

There were goblins in Eastern Kingdoms by the Second War, and as said above, there are 1% population of Tauren in Undermine City. So it's not too far-fetched to imagine a Tauren in Eastern Kingdoms, coming along with goblins for their arena battles.

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lets not forget that even the Goblins were not around Kalimdor for a very long time.
We don't know for sure there have never been goblin in Kalimdor during or pre-Second War. There were goblins working for Neltharion during the War of the Ancients for example.

Lands of Mystery said goblins arrived to Isle of Kezan and wtfpwned the jungle trolls of Isle of Kezan -- remnants now living at Voodress Village. So that means the goblins themselves came from somewhere else since they weren't native to Isle of Kezan.

That however doesn't mean the Tauren haven't traveled themselves to Isle of Kezan on their own. There are Tauren ruins in Shimmering Flats for example, which isn't too far from the coast of Tanaris.

Just because there was a protective mist doesn't mean other outsiders couldn't have gone to Kalimdor. You find Stormreaver remnants in Durotar. Ogres in Eldre'thalas, Dustwallow Marsh, and Tanaris. Those in Dustwallow were already there when Rexxar arrived to challenge its leader in Warcraft III. Goblins could have been in Kalimdor pre-Warcraft III.

Warcraft RPG Compendium: Goblins are a wily, cunning race of
traders and tinkers typically encountered as part
of a trading envoy ... or when on a pirate raid.
Goblin ships frequent the seas around Kalimdor,
seeking riches, slaves, or exotic wares.

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Aren't there Tauren in Northrend too?
There are Tauren in Lake Wintergrasp at the Icemist Village -- according to Wow RPG: Lands of Mystery. I wouldn't doubt these are the new Tauren race: the Taunka, though. However, they are only described as Tauren. So for now let's believe they are normal Tauren. 20% of the Dragonblight population.

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Old 11-11-2007, 02:50 AM
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About the Tauren: We won't ever know whether the author thought that deep or just made a lorelol which can be explained.

However, the Night Elf can't be explained.
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If you mean the elf in the same frame as the tauren, that was a high elf most likely. The tauren, the ogre boots, the elf and the gates in the back are all light blue. It's just part of the coloring technique.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:23 AM
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If you mean the elf in the same frame as the tauren, that was a high elf most likely. The tauren, the ogre boots, the elf and the gates in the back are all light blue. It's just part of the coloring technique.
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what about the night elf behind the human commander from the second war battle picture, 2nd lorelol?? dont say it is high elf, it definately has blueish skin
There ya go.

edit: I really like that design for the Flying Machines.
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Night Elf Icon (War3)

There also appears to be another Night Elf in the picture with the Tauren, dead of the to right.

That might also be explained away by color, but that hair sure looks green to me. Style or Lorelol?

The worst thing about this is, this is what we have come to expect of Blizzard. So some of us automaticly assume it is mistake, which then is explained away by others.
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:36 AM
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The worst thing about this is, this is what we have come to expect of Blizzard. So some of us automaticly assume it is mistake, which then is explained away by others.
It doesn't help that Blizz can't seem to hammer into third-party artists' brains the simple fact that High Elf ears sweep upwards, and Night Elf ears sweep backwards. One will notice that it looks like Valeera's gonna frequently have her ears done wrong as well, based on the images in this preview comic, and I even get the feeling that if the Blood Elf character were a man instead, he'd be just as tall as the Night Ef is, since the height distinctions also seem to escape a lot of the artists and they only bother to make the women slightly shorter so they're more distinguishable. Even the writers seem to often overlook the impresive height of Night Elves and the stature of High elves, which is supposed to be ever-so-slightly shorter and less muscular-looking than humans. You'd think that to a human (like Rhonin) during the WotA it would've been especially noticable that everyone's at least a foot taller than he is, and many are close to eight feet in height. An entire race taller than the average professional basketball player, and that gets mostly ignored while we're hammered with repetitions of how Malfurion's face turns purple when he blushes.

The apparent out-of-place Night Elves are probably a miscommunication between the inkers and the color artists due to the ear thing. It was likely initially drawn with the far-off High Elves' ears mistakenly made to slant backward instead of properly upward, and since the colorists aren't necessarily even in on the story of things enough to know that purple elves would have no place in such a flashback, they just logically drew upon the assumption that since they looked like the Night Elf narrator, they must also be the same kind of elf. Thus they were colored bluish-skinned with greenish hair and the lore fallacy was made all the more solid just because somebody couldn't be bothered to make High Elves look like High Elves in the first place.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:23 AM
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Am startin' to have a bad feeling about this.
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ok, you convinced me with the second war clash battle coloring, and the lethargy issue. I contacted Walter Simonson to let him know about this. I will update if I get a reply on this.
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