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Old 10-11-2012, 03:15 AM
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That Kerrigan thing is such bs... for one thing the premise is faulty. Kerrigan was LYING when she said she wasn't interested in getting revenge on Mengsk.

The problem is... she got it. And she was satisfied with it. And having her go back and want it again is a pretty stale retread and it really just feels like they're looking for something for her to do. Rather than it being a natural part of the story.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:40 PM
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That Kerrigan thing is such bs... for one thing the premise is faulty. Kerrigan was LYING when she said she wasn't interested in getting revenge on Mengsk.

The problem is... she got it. And she was satisfied with it. And having her go back and want it again is a pretty stale retread and it really just feels like they're looking for something for her to do. Rather than it being a natural part of the story.
She got her revenge as the Queen of Blades. Maybe Human Kerrigan wasn't satisfied?

I mean, it's not like the Queen of Blades wanted to stop being Zerg.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:18 PM
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Part two! In this thrilling installment, find out why Raynor saved Kerrigan and how Mutalisks fly in a vacuum!
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:28 PM
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Part two! In this thrilling installment, find out why Raynor saved Kerrigan and how Mutalisks fly in a vacuum!
These are mildly interesting
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:37 PM
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I like the answers.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:32 PM
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Mutas can fart to fly around, too?!?
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:29 PM
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:01 PM
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That one was mildly satisfying. Now why couldn't we have known more of that months ago?
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Also like those.
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Now, this is an interesting one.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:33 PM
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Now, this is an interesting one.
I'd say so. So far, they touched upon all my major complaints, so they at least recognize them.

But... "Narrative games are not films, and they are not novels." What??! My worldview!!!
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:25 PM
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Why Brian, why?
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Question: ... If the Xel'naga aren't around now because the Overmind crushed their fleet, how could the Overmind have been enslaved by the Xel'naga all along, as WoL says?

Answer: Who said the Overmind was enslaved by the Xel'naga?

So... the Dark Voice is something completely different? Unless he is nitpicking over the difference between "the" and "a".
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Question: ... If the Xel'naga aren't around now because the Overmind crushed their fleet, how could the Overmind have been enslaved by the Xel'naga all along, as WoL says?

Answer: Who said the Overmind was enslaved by the Xel'naga?

So... the Dark Voice is something completely different? Unless he is nitpicking over the difference between "the" and "a".
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I mean, he has a protoss head and vestigial hydralisk jaws. That says Hybrid to me. The Dark Templar saga went on about how the Hybrids are the Xel'naga. I'm sure there is a twist in there, but the question could just have been ignored.
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How can the Hybrids be Xel'Naga? The Xel'Naga created both Zerg and Protoss from indigenous creatures they found on various planets.
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How can the Hybrids be Xel'Naga? The Xel'Naga created both Zerg and Protoss from indigenous creatures they found on various planets.
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How can the Hybrids be Xel'Naga? The Xel'Naga created both Zerg and Protoss from indigenous creatures they found on various planets.
The Xel'naga didn't reproduce like other races,they make two races and then when those merge together they become the new Xel'naga.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:57 PM
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The Xel'naga didn't reproduce like other races,they make two races and then when those merge together they become the new Xel'naga.
Really? I didn't know that.

What a fucked up means of reproduction.
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The Hybrids aren't the Xel'Naga; in the Dark Templar Saga novels (if memory serves) it indicates they're something "other" that doesn't follow the intended evolutionary path of the Xel'Naga reproduction cycle.

Which kind of makes sense, as neither Hybrid form seems properly merged. One is clearly more protoss than zerg, while the other is more zerg than protoss. Neither comes across as a complete, merged entity possessing both the pure "essence" and "form" being sought by the Xel'Naga.

It's really not entirely clear yet just how the merger would be intended to occur. Given that the Overmind's fixation on the protoss was apparently unnatural and the Xel'Naga retain much of their well-intentioned (if at times inexplicable) demeanor, the Xel'Naga probably didn't intend for their reproductive cycle to rely upon something as haphazard as the zerg outright invading Aiur and violently assimilating the protoss, obliterating billions of lives and their entire culture in the process.

At this point, "merging the two species" could amount to the Xel'Naga extracting a specimen of each when they've reach the desired level of evolutionary maturity, and essentially cloning a merged descendant race rather than simply creating two different species and smashing them together in the hopes they'll end up merged.

Though I'll admit the irritating "prophecy" angle raises the possibility of the Xel'Naga already foreseeing how everything would turn out, which kind of nullifies the very idea that anything they did was ever truly an "experiment" if they always knew how it would end.
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The Hybrids aren't the Xel'Naga; in the Dark Templar Saga novels (if memory serves) it indicates they're something "other" that doesn't follow the intended evolutionary path of the Xel'Naga reproduction cycle.
If my memory serves me, and I'm not saying that it does, Zamara in the novels goes back and fourth on the exact definition. Maybe. I dunno. I want to say the Hybrids are not Xel'naga, but I think the novels say they are, but still aren't, but still are. I'll check.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:47 PM
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Oh. Hey.

More half-baked excuses.

Also, comparing the Starcraft 1 manual to the Book of Cain: probably not a good idea, seeing as the manual was free and obviously written for the joy of creation, whereas the Book of Cain was more superfluous paraphernalia you could buy if you were a sucker.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:24 PM
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good idea, seeing as the manual was free and obviously written for the joy of creation, whereas the Book of Cain was more superfluous paraphernalia you could buy if you were a sucker.
To be fair, that was a fan's question that compared the book of cain to the manuals. Also, I think the book of cain was absoposolutiely awesome.

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Oh. Hey.

More half-baked excuses.

Also, comparing the Starcraft 1 manual to the Book of Cain: probably not a good idea, seeing as the manual was free and obviously written for the joy of creation, whereas the Book of Cain was more superfluous paraphernalia you could buy if you were a sucker.
Blizzard actually used the correct terminologies for sapient and sentient!?

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