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Old 03-16-2013, 07:32 PM
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It isn't that there will not be D4, WC4 or SC3 but rather the plot will be wholly different--possible start of a new story arc ages later.
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It isn't that there will not be D4, WC4 or SC3 but rather the plot will be wholly different--possible start of a new story arc ages later.
Or exploring a different part of the world contemporaneously, or early history.
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Which was annoying but still way better than the straight-up hero I was expecting.
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Here's hoping the Protoss don't 'do a night elf' and simply prevail conventionally - and yes, they should be the ones to 'win'. It's their expansion and they as a race deserve it. Not Terran, not Zerg - Protoss.

Artanis, Selendis and Zeratul will probably be among the main character line-up for the campaign.

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I was trolling on another forum and said that the information below was the leaked Legacy of the Void storyline spoilers. Obviously they're not but I think I made a fairly accurate prediction lol.

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The campaign will focus on Zeratul finding a way to bring the Protoss together while dealing with the fact that he murdered his lover Raszagal.

There are cinematics depicting Zeratul's nightmares of seeing his warp blade pierce through his lover's heart.

Zeratul has been retconned to be the same age as Raszagal.

As Zeratul tries to bring each Protoss faction together he meets a potential love interest. He'll have a lover among the Khalai, the Nerazim and the Tal'darim. He must weigh his decisions in his heart as much as his mind if he wants to unite as many Protoss as possible.

There are missions where Zeratul seeks out Raynor and Kerrigan asking them for help on how to deal with his conflicting emotions.

Amon and the Hybrids are irrelevant until the last mission. Majority of the missions will by PvP and involve Zeratul fighting one of his lovers who think he cheated on them.

The story will end with Zeratul becoming the Patriarch of Protoss after marrying Raszagal's sister and making her the Matriarch.

The Protoss won't kill Kerrigan after Amon is defeated because she helped Zeratul with his love issues. Instead they'll thank her by giving her a machine that will allow her to temporarily retake her human form each month. Thus she can continue her relationship with Raynor.


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Old 08-16-2013, 09:34 AM
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:26 PM
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So when do you guys think we will hear info on Legacy of the Void?
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:31 PM
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I was trolling on another forum and said that the information below was the leaked Legacy of the Void storyline spoilers. Obviously they're not but I think I made a fairly accurate prediction lol.

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Old 03-18-2014, 09:06 PM
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My guess for a plot twist is that Zeratul will be forced to choose between letting the zerg devour the entirety of Aiur and/or letting Kerrigan's swarm be too weak to kill Amon. Even the most liberal of both types of Templar would be against that.
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I just realized the original post said 800 Supply Cap, when there are 3 races.

Which would be 600.

I am sad I didn't point it out sooner.
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The Protoss won't kill Kerrigan after Amon is defeated because she helped Zeratul with his love issues. Instead they'll thank her by giving her a machine that will allow her to temporarily retake her human form each month. Thus she can continue her relationship with Raynor.
Thanks for helping me out with my girl problems, Kerrigan! We forgive you for killing billions of people. Here is an anti-PMS machine.
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:07 PM
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I suspect that once again the Protoss will have a Pyrrhic victory that involves the decline or near obliteration of their civilization.

I suspect that the Protoss campaign will be about Kerrigan and the zerg.
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't go that far. In each campaign the race in question has been the focus. The Zerg were the focus in heart of the swarm the terrans in wings of liberty. They also said they delayed the game because they wanted to rework the missions and make them feel "protossy".

I suspect Kerrigan's stunt with Niadra's gonna come back and haunt her when she tries to ally with them, thereby finally getting called out on what she did on kaldir. As such, this makes any attempts at an alliance even harder than before. Zeratul has to find a way to appease various factions (Urun may want to reconquer Aiur and pledge support if you help. Someone else might think that's a waste of time and you have to choose which faction to help. Depending on who you choose you get certain types of units).

I think that Zeratul will have to somehow obtain the powers of twilight (maybe fusing with a khala archon) than merge with Kerrigan, creating a single perfect being. Than in the final battle we have an army of hybrids and either a pseudo boss battle with Amon or a cutscene where Kerrigan, Zeratul, or Keratul (if they fuse together) facing off with Amon in a cutscene that will be really beautifully done and which obviously consumed a lot of the budget). Something happens, Zerg and Protoss fuse, Xel'naga are reborn etc.


I liked Heart of the swarm's ending. Kerrigan and Raynor aren't together, but they both gracefully accept it. Kerrigan's finally made peace with her tormented life, Raynor's finally forgiven himself, and can work on rebuilding human civilization, since for the first time in decades humanity has a decent leader.

I honestly think that this might be a good place to wrap up the arcs of Kerrigan and Raynor. We've seen Kerrigan as a genuinely good person in Rebel Yell, the brainwashed slave in Campaign 2, we see her as the heartless monster in brood war and WOL. We see her as the conflicted individual, the vengeful warrior who will do whatever it takes to get revenge, and finally as someone who is as close to a hero as a zerg can ever be (she was genuinely shocked when raynor came to help her so it's safe to say that at most he just reminded her what her selfishness had cost her, namely any chance at a normal life and happiness with the one person who actually cared for her). At this point I think we should focus on the new generation after Amon's fall (like how after NJO they should have moved away from luke and co but didn't which led to the eu going to shit.)
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I wouldn't go that far. In each campaign the race in question has been the focus. The Zerg were the focus in heart of the swarm the terrans in wings of liberty. They also said they delayed the game because they wanted to rework the missions and make them feel "protossy".

I suspect Kerrigan's stunt with Niadra's gonna come back and haunt her when she tries to ally with them, thereby finally getting called out on what she did on kaldir. As such, this makes any attempts at an alliance even harder than before. Zeratul has to find a way to appease various factions (Urun may want to reconquer Aiur and pledge support if you help. Someone else might think that's a waste of time and you have to choose which faction to help. Depending on who you choose you get certain types of units).

I think that Zeratul will have to somehow obtain the powers of twilight (maybe fusing with a khala archon) than merge with Kerrigan, creating a single perfect being. Than in the final battle we have an army of hybrids and either a pseudo boss battle with Amon or a cutscene where Kerrigan, Zeratul, or Keratul (if they fuse together) facing off with Amon in a cutscene that will be really beautifully done and which obviously consumed a lot of the budget). Something happens, Zerg and Protoss fuse, Xel'naga are reborn etc.


I liked Heart of the swarm's ending. Kerrigan and Raynor aren't together, but they both gracefully accept it. Kerrigan's finally made peace with her tormented life, Raynor's finally forgiven himself, and can work on rebuilding human civilization, since for the first time in decades humanity has a decent leader.

I honestly think that this might be a good place to wrap up the arcs of Kerrigan and Raynor. We've seen Kerrigan as a genuinely good person in Rebel Yell, the brainwashed slave in Campaign 2, we see her as the heartless monster in brood war and WOL. We see her as the conflicted individual, the vengeful warrior who will do whatever it takes to get revenge, and finally as someone who is as close to a hero as a zerg can ever be (she was genuinely shocked when raynor came to help her so it's safe to say that at most he just reminded her what her selfishness had cost her, namely any chance at a normal life and happiness with the one person who actually cared for her). At this point I think we should focus on the new generation after Amon's fall (like how after NJO they should have moved away from luke and co but didn't which led to the eu going to shit.)
Interesting opinion, glad to see someone else who is optimistic about Starcraft 2.

I mean it is not perfect, but if Warcraft was as good now as Starcraft is I would never complain about Warcraft... as is I am considered the chief Warcraft cynic of SoL, to put things into perspective.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to explain all the reasons why I think SC is miles ahead of WC. But lets just say that SC, despite everything, is still much, much more down to earth than WC. And it is also not so disgustingly idealistic as WC has become, it has that tinge of gray and dubiousness that makes fiction interesting. SC feels like it is going somewhere, the games and the expanded materials tell interesting and meaningful stories, while WC is gimped by both gameplay and the unwillingness of the developers to make bold decisions, they're too afraid to rock the status quo... Really in every single way, from gameplay to character depth, SC blows WC out of the water.
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Interesting opinion, glad to see someone else who is optimistic about Starcraft 2.

I mean it is not perfect, but if Warcraft was as good now as Starcraft is I would never complain about Warcraft... as is I am considered the chief Warcraft cynic of SoL, to put things into perspective.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to explain all the reasons why I think SC is miles ahead of WC. But lets just say that SC, despite everything, is still much, much more down to earth than WC. And it is also not so disgustingly idealistic as WC has become, it has that tinge of gray and dubiousness that makes fiction interesting. SC feels like it is going somewhere, the games and the expanded materials tell interesting and meaningful stories, while WC is gimped by both gameplay and the unwillingness of the developers to make bold decisions, they're too afraid to rock the status quo... Really in every single way, from gameplay to character depth, SC blows WC out of the water.
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Interesting opinion, glad to see someone else who is optimistic about Starcraft 2.

I mean it is not perfect, but if Warcraft was as good now as Starcraft is I would never complain about Warcraft... as is I am considered the chief Warcraft cynic of SoL, to put things into perspective.

I don't have the time nor the inclination to explain all the reasons why I think SC is miles ahead of WC. But lets just say that SC, despite everything, is still much, much more down to earth than WC. And it is also not so disgustingly idealistic as WC has become, it has that tinge of gray and dubiousness that makes fiction interesting. SC feels like it is going somewhere, the games and the expanded materials tell interesting and meaningful stories, while WC is gimped by both gameplay and the unwillingness of the developers to make bold decisions, they're too afraid to rock the status quo... Really in every single way, from gameplay to character depth, SC blows WC out of the water.
I feel very much the same.

Diablo aswell. Both other Blizzard IPs utterly piss over WarCraft, and have done for awhile.
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I feel very much the same.

Diablo aswell. Both other Blizzard IPs utterly piss over WarCraft, and have done for awhile.
Before Diablo 3, I would have agreed with you, but Diablo 3 was a story-telling piece of shit.
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Before Diablo 3, I would have agreed with you, but Diablo 3 was a story-telling piece of shit.
Oh I'm not saying Diablo (or StarCraft for that matter) are anywhere near perfect - they're not - but next to the train wreck-after-train wreck that is WarCraft, they're fucking masterpieces by comparison.
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Oh I'm not saying Diablo (or StarCraft for that matter) are anywhere near perfect - they're not - but next to the train wreck-after-train wreck that is WarCraft, they're fucking masterpieces by comparison.
Ah, I agree. I will say that there is a troubling trend among the three Blizzard IPs, in which they are increasingly losing sight of the human element in favor of a grander cosmological scale of big bad evils (Amon, Burning Legion/Old Gods, Burning Hell/High Heavens) and prophesies. These things are fine in the far distant background, but they are increasingly moving to the forefront and marginalizing humanity and compelling characterization.
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Ah, I agree. I will say that there is a troubling trend among the three Blizzard IPs, in which they are increasingly losing sight of the human element in favor of a grander cosmological scale of big bad evils (Amon, Burning Legion/Old Gods, Burning Hell/High Heavens) and prophesies. These things are fine in the far distant background, but they are increasingly moving to the forefront and marginalizing humanity and compelling characterization.
Yeah I've had that feeling aswell, it's not nice I must admit. Stuff like that certainly can have it's place, of course, but as you say, it feels like it's becoming more and more the focus of all 3 IPs. :/
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Ah, I agree. I will say that there is a troubling trend among the three Blizzard IPs, in which they are increasingly losing sight of the human element in favor of a grander cosmological scale of big bad evils (Amon, Burning Legion/Old Gods, Burning Hell/High Heavens) and prophesies. These things are fine in the far distant background, but they are increasingly moving to the forefront and marginalizing humanity and compelling characterization.
The Zerg was the most character focused I've seen in StarCraft 2. StarCraft to me went from a diverse group of characters interacting together, to a few main ones (fan favorites) as they develop a larger role.
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So was Starcraft 2!
WoL disappointed me because I expected more from Starcraft (based on SC1 and some books) and it had some really dubious plot points (everything about Tychus' mission and situation mostly) but still it was much better than Warcraft is. That is pretty much all that people are saying, that SC is miles ahead of WC even though it has its own problems. And yes, it did lose in quality somewhat in the sequels.

However it is good, enjoyable and it can keep my attention, it is decent in so many words. The story is sensible enough, and the universe is colorful (what with all that extra info in game, as well as in Project Blackstone), things are more realistic and that makes the characters and the whole setting more believable, it has enough stuff to work while Warcraft only makes me groan in frustration and sometimes laugh in incredulity at how bad things get.

And for me HotS was an improvement over WoL which is a great thing since when things get bad they generally keep getting worse, it is a positive impulse.

As a side note, I bet if WoW had more CGI cinematics it would be 20% better storywise in the eyes of the general crowd. I doesn't sway me as much but it really does bring the story to life, the CGI is so good you can almost believe those Leviathans and the Vikings attacking it are real.

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