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Old 05-12-2017, 10:47 AM
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Kinda curious, how does HOTS stack up against other MOBAs in terms of players?

I did some research but I didn't find out much, apparently LOL has somewhere between 10-14M while DOTA2 is No.2 at around 1M and HOTS has less then either... but I can't find out how much.

Also what do you guys think HOTS future is, can it beat any of the big names anytime soon?
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:11 PM
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Also what do you guys think HOTS future is, can it beat any of the big names anytime soon?
It's the WoW effect. Doesn't matter how good the game is or will become it's how invested players are in their competition. Other mobas have drained hundreds/ thousands/millions of hours and dollars from players, make them build a collection of digital things they're then loathe to leave. With times sinks being first can matter a lot more then being best.

Hots will do fine, doubt Blizzard would keep pushing it this hard if it wasn't going to. Put it'll probably never be the top of the pack like they might've wanted but as a small, quirky game it's kept me coming back at least a few times per patch cycle.
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Old 05-12-2017, 05:01 PM
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Kinda curious, how does HOTS stack up against other MOBAs in terms of players?

I did some research but I didn't find out much, apparently LOL has somewhere between 10-14M while DOTA2 is No.2 at around 1M and HOTS has less then either... but I can't find out how much.

Also what do you guys think HOTS future is, can it beat any of the big names anytime soon?
Pretty doubtful. I still wonder why some people think it is doing poorly I mean I always see the competitions and events go very well but I could be mistaken.
I think they failed poorly though with selecting FB to stream their Heroes of the Dorm and should have gone another way.
When you compare it to the big guys yea it looks bad but they have had a strong foothold for a while now.
Take WoW, how many MMOs came close...none. So LoL has been around for a long time and will continue to kill it, no matter how shit that community is
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Old 05-12-2017, 05:27 PM
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Also what do you guys think HOTS future is, can it beat any of the big names anytime soon?
Theres a certain fundamental flaw that will always make the game niche but profitable.
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Old 05-12-2017, 05:40 PM
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I get what you mean, I remember there were times WoW felt like unpaid work (scratch that, I paid them for the privilege) but I still kept at it because I've already invested so much into it both emotionally, temporally and monetary.

That is a whole different issue though and one present in many if not most modern games. They all have RPG elements for you to feel compelled to grind or you feel a need to make your monetary investment worth it and other methods that make something meant to be for entertainment too much like a Skinner box and a trap.
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1-Thats what Riot has been doing for years with their sexy females. Give either Nova or WM a shorter ponytail
2- That's the player problem
3- I didnt say there werent issues but thats for developers to solve. Dissmissing WM because HURDURNOVAISTHESAEM is stupid.
1. I don't follow Riot or LoL, so I can't comment on that. But really, sligthly shorter/longer ponytail? That's all you want to give the player to differentiate them?

2. A player's problem created by the developer via a bad design choice.. Inother words a failure in game design. Clarity is a very important aspect for pvp games, especially a Moba.

3. Yes, it's up to the developers to decide how to solve such problems. But it also means that sometimes there are sacrifices to be made: if a visual problem like this cant be solved since like in this case the characters have a strongly defined design, then either you make Widowmaker a skin for the already existing and implemented hero, or you scrap the idea and don't add her at all. It's not always ideal, but far better than nothing.
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Old 05-13-2017, 03:36 PM
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Old 05-14-2017, 06:25 PM
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I really REALLY REALLY want custom games for HOTS or some map that is like HLWL or HLW in general.

Would be kinda fun.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:07 AM
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The bad thing about these promotions if you want to actually enjoy the game and have a chance at winning is playing Unranked Draft or Ranked. In Quick play
i've seen more toxicity from people just trying to do the quests than people trying to play the game.
I get Blizzard wants people to play HotS but people are just gonna throw in order to finish as quickly as possible.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:31 AM
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:45 AM
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What's that?
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one of the best games for warcraft 3.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:59 PM
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I started playing because of the Overwatch promotion. I've come to enjoy it a lot, but I gotta say, stealth heroes are an abomination. They get me salty in no time at all especially Valeera

Damn green eyed, blonde haired, no thigh covered bully.

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Old 05-16-2017, 11:11 PM
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is it wrong that i am wanting to know hints of the upcoming hero.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:45 AM
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Given Dvas lines about Garrosh...
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Old 05-17-2017, 03:11 PM
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Kinda curious, how does HOTS stack up against other MOBAs in terms of players?

I did some research but I didn't find out much, apparently LOL has somewhere between 10-14M while DOTA2 is No.2 at around 1M and HOTS has less then either... but I can't find out how much.

Also what do you guys think HOTS future is, can it beat any of the big names anytime soon?
I really doubt it's beating LoL and Dota ever for the same reason that WoW hasn't been toppled. They have fanbases with roots settled too deep. LoL struck gold at the exact right moment with the exact right product just like WoW did.

As for its future, not sure on that one yet. Some of the more popular and well-known LoL streamers have been playing it a lot lately and it's regularly got 10k+ viewers on twitch. I'd say right now is arguably the best period it's been in to date, but we'll see if that holds.

Anyway, I think it'd be fun to do some SoL games if anyone is interested. I've been playing on and off lately as time allows. Primarily play assassins with Jaina, Zera, and Valla leading the pack but I'll do pretty much anything with specialists being my weakest area. Lately I've been on an Artanis kick and I feel I'm starting to really nail the blade dash>phase prism combo. Also been trying to get decent at Probius, but I still suck with him.
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Yeah LoL and Dota struck good once WoW started sucky sucky.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:38 AM
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is it wrong that i am wanting to know hints of the upcoming hero.
We'll find out probably 2 weeks from now or so.

I IMAGINE it's a support of some sort.

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Anyway, I think it'd be fun to do some SoL games if anyone is interested. I've been playing on and off lately as time allows. Primarily play assassins with Jaina, Zera, and Valla leading the pack but I'll do pretty much anything with specialists being my weakest area. Lately I've been on an Artanis kick and I feel I'm starting to really nail the blade dash>phase prism combo. Also been trying to get decent at Probius, but I still suck with him.
I'd be down, but I play on NA so that might present some issues.

I typically play supports. Malfurion, Tyrande, Brightwing, Auriel, Tassadar, Uther.
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I sure hope Garrosh or grommash is next.

Kelthuzad would be very meh.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:40 PM
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I kinda want D3 heroes that are the opposite gender, with their own playstyles and backstory. Either that or make them optional skins for the current D3 heroes if it's hard to think of any new abilities.

Although in the case of the male Barbarian, I definitely want him to be a new hero with both the D2 and D3 version as skin options.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:16 PM
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I kinda want D3 heroes that are the opposite gender, with their own playstyles and backstory. Either that or make them optional skins for the current D3 heroes if it's hard to think of any new abilities.

Although in the case of the male Barbarian, I definitely want him to be a new hero with both the D2 and D3 version as skin options.
There's plenty of room for alt playstyles and such with each of them.


Male Barbarian can have a single "Mighty" two-handed weapon and the earthquake / avalanche abilities.


Female witchdoctor can have a blowgun and use the poison darts, firebats, and zombie dog spells.


Male Wizard can use shockbolts, arcane torrent, and spectral blades.


Female Monk can use a staff and have attacks based off the wave of light and crippling wave spells.

Male Crusader can use a twohanded flail or something, yall get the idea.
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The opposite genders should just be legendary skins. (sadly) but they could also add options for genders of them.

Think it would be fun if they added a multiclass that was the Adventurer.

I think they should remove sonya for the male barbarian homever.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:29 PM
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There's plenty of room for alt playstyles and such with each of them.


Male Barbarian can have a single "Mighty" two-handed weapon and the earthquake / avalanche abilities.


Female witchdoctor can have a blowgun and use the poison darts, firebats, and zombie dog spells.


Male Wizard can use shockbolts, arcane torrent, and spectral blades.


Female Monk can use a staff and have attacks based off the wave of light and crippling wave spells.

Male Crusader can use a twohanded flail or something, yall get the idea.
Male Demon Hunter with 2h crossbow and grenade/sentry playstyle, maybe have those shadow pets as well.

Although maybe that's just because I'm enjoying the Cluster Arrow/Sentry playstyle with the Marauder set right now.

Then again the dual knives and Shadow Power concept would be cool too.

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Old 05-20-2017, 09:04 AM
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I kinda want D3 heroes that are the opposite gender, with their own playstyles and backstory. Either that or make them optional skins for the current D3 heroes if it's hard to think of any new abilities.
They're more likely to make them legendary skins like Prime Evil Diablo.

The Wizard in particular doesn't leave a ton of room for an actual distinct kit from all the mages that are already in the game.

Demon Hunter using sentries would step too much all over Probius and Gazlowe.
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They're more likely to make them legendary skins like Prime Evil Diablo.

The Wizard in particular doesn't leave a ton of room for an actual distinct kit from all the mages that are already in the game.

Demon Hunter using sentries would step too much all over Probius and Gazlowe.
Gotta disagree, if they'll stick Amazon and Novazon in there there's plenty of room for the alt genders.

Wizard's still got plenty of spells.

If Probius didn't step all over Gazlowe then Demon Hunter wouldn't especially if they apply the sentry like an ult or something.
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