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Old 06-04-2014, 07:49 PM
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Have any so-called "men" here tried to go to work in a skirt, stockings, blouse, and rouge? What would the response be?

And yet, so-called "women" seem to be presently permitted to go around with short hair, trousers, and shirts.

This is a grand inequity which society cannot seem to handle.
Because Noitora would look awful in a skirt.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:51 PM
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:54 PM
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Eddie Izzard seems to pull it off pretty well. I just don't think it's a good look. Maybe if someone designed skirts and so on with men in mind.
That's not the point. Why should women be allowed to wear trousers if men cannot wear skirts? Let's say I think that women don't look good in trousers, and that they should only wear skirts/dresses, as in days past. That would be considered sexist by most people. If I were to say that men shouldn't wear skirts because "it isn't a good look", no one bats an eye.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:02 PM
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That's not the point. Why should women be allowed to wear trousers if men cannot wear skirts? Let's say I think that women don't look good in trousers, and that they should only wear skirts/dresses, as in days past. That would be considered sexist by most people. If I were to say that men shouldn't wear skirts because "it isn't a good look", no one bats an eye.
Because now there are pants designed for women. There aren't any skirts or dresses designed for men, excluding kilts. Men can wear whatever they want, it just wouldn't look good without being designed with male fashion in mind. I'm not saying men can't, I'm saying it would look stupid without designing dresses and skirts for men. Hell, even Kanye wore a skirt.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:03 PM
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Because now there are pants designed for women. There aren't any skirts or dresses designed for men, excluding kilts. Men can wear whatever they want, it just wouldn't look good without being designed with male fashion in mind. I'm not saying men can't, I'm saying it would look stupid without designing dresses and skirts for men. Hell, even Kanye wore a skirt.
That's what Kardashians do to men.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:06 PM
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That's what Kardashians do to men.
You know you couldn't resist that booty.

It's all good, I wouldn't be able to either.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:07 PM
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I might be alone in this, but I think constantly bandying around the phrase 'rape culture' has done a lot to diminish the severity and terribleness of actual rape. Leering at someone should not be described with the same word as violently forcing someone to have sex without consent.
I don't think anyone considers leering at someone rape culture.

Rape culture is when someone says they were raped and you ask them what they were wearing or tell them they shouldn't have 'led their rapist on'
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:09 PM
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Because now there are pants designed for women. There aren't any skirts or dresses designed for men, excluding kilts. Men can wear whatever they want, it just wouldn't look good without being designed with male fashion in mind. I'm not saying men can't, I'm saying it would look stupid without designing dresses and skirts for men. Hell, even Kanye wore a skirt.
That's not what I'm saying, again. As an everyday person, put on a knee-length skirt, and wear it to work. Put on rouge. Put on a frilly, paisley blouse. Put on a nice pair of long stockings, with garters. Let's say this is a presentable, business-friendly outfit if worn by a woman. What would the response be?

It would not be tolerated as acceptable.

Trousers "designed for women" are still trousers, which are a traditionally male piece of clothing. Regardless, they are not fundamentally different from trousers designed for men, other than perhaps in terms of cut. A woman wearing trousers and a jacket to work is normal at this point, despite the fact that it would've been abhorrent in as recent a decade as the seventies. Men, however, cannot acceptably wear so-called "women's" clothing to work, now can they?
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:10 PM
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I don't think anyone considers leering at someone rape culture.
You'd be surprised at how many women feel creeped out by a guy staring at them. Usually with good reason. I think people include sexual harassment in rape culture.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:11 PM
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I think the skirt thing has to do with the fact that men have external genitals.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:12 PM
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I think the skirt thing has to do with the fact that men have external genitals.
Tell that to the many cultures where men wear robes, kilts, sarongs, and other assorted similar garments.
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Old 06-04-2014, 08:13 PM
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I think the skirt thing has to do with the fact that men have external genitals.
You can still wear underwear, and there's tucking.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:46 PM
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Erza Scarlet is what Feminists wish they were: badass, beautiful, and a genius.



Instead, they end up like this:

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Old 06-05-2014, 12:52 AM
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Erza Scarlet is what Feminists wish they were: badass, beautiful, and a genius.



Instead, they end up like this:

Couldn't agree more. Thread should be renamed as feminazism.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:53 AM
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:55 AM
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Pretending to have a v@gina won't increase your chances of ever scoring a girlfriend.

Eat more red meat and lift weights. When you can protect and provide for a woman, you will be more attractive to the fairer sex.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:56 AM
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Pretending to have a v@gina won't increase your chances of ever scoring a girlfriend.

Eat more red meat and lift weights. When you can protect and provide for a woman, you will be more attractive to the fairer sex.
I'm...what?

not even going to try to wrap my brain around that one
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:57 AM
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Pretending to have a v@gina won't increase your chances of ever scoring a girlfriend.

Eat more red meat and lift weights. When you can protect and provide for a woman, you will be more attractive to the fairer sex.
But what if I want a woman who has a career and doesn't actually need my income to survive?
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:58 AM
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I'm not on the hunt for "some pussy", I'm speaking from my view on society and how women are stigmatized by institutionalized sexism
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But what if I want a woman who has a career and doesn't actually need my income to survive?
That's called being a sugar mommy hunter.
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At least if she makes more than I do I can be sure her lawyers can't milk me for half my pension if/when the divorce rolls around.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:05 AM
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But what if I want a woman who has a career and doesn't actually need my income to survive?
That's awesome. She still wants a man who will be protective of her and can keep a roof over her head should she decide she wants to raise children. Believe it or not, many women still desire that.

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Exactly. You are trying so hard to get friendzoned by screeching feminists you're not even bothering to do yourself a damned bit of good.

And that's your problem. That's why you're so miserable.

Maybe if you stopped worrying about upsetting an angry, miserable subset of the female population and instead focused on being what you were meant to be - a full-fledged, p3nis-wielding man, you might be a little happier with your direction in life.

Right now, you have no direction because the direction you choose only exists to please something you can't ever really relate to. So, stop. Trust me. The feminists do enough screeching on their own. They don't need your help. In fact, you're making it harder for them. Having a pathetic mewling Quirn on their side only makes their cause look bad.

You can be a man without being a misogynist dick. Trust me. I do it every day. I have a wife and daughter I adore and want nothing but success and opportunity for. But I still provide for and protect them.

What do you do for your feminist friends? Cry on the internet? Yeah. Big achievement there pal. You're really scoring lots of points with everyone.
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Old 06-05-2014, 01:08 AM
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what do you want from me bolvar

I can't just dismiss sexism and misogyny as easily as some of y'all do
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But what if I want a woman who has a career and doesn't actually need my income to survive?
One of my best friends parents are kind of like that. Except they both work at $80k a year plus jobs.
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what do you want from me bolvar

I can't just dismiss sexism and misogyny as easily as some of y'all do
I'm honestly just trying to help you out here.

You don't need to dismiss anything. But you can sure as hell stop worrying about it so damned much and focus on what might actually make you happy... I don't mean right now - I mean doing something, really setting out and doing something, that will make you happy when you look back on your life 20 years from now.

Because if you're still where you are at now in 20 years, you're not going to enjoy that hindsight.
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