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Old 09-12-2014, 03:35 PM
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It's time for this to have its own thread. Here's why:
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:42 PM
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I don't get it.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:44 PM
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After saw this thread I read its info on wiki, my reaction is: Some people just have too much time to attack others.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:47 PM
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I didn't know what it was, so I googled it. First thing I found was an article about how sexist videogames and it's consumers are.

At this point, I'm not even surprised anymore.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:50 PM
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Gamergate totally misses the point of the issue..

Who the fuck cares if Quinn or whatever sleeps around? And?

It matters that she did so with her boss, her reviewers, and others in positions where she had something to gain.

It's about fucking corruption, not sexism, and somehow the sexist crowd got it all tangled about.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:50 PM
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Well, better than it hog the space in the video game thread, I suppose.
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Old 09-12-2014, 03:58 PM
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:02 PM
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Can we go back to when games were for socially awkward boys? No girlz allowd.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:03 PM
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Can we go back to when games were for socially awkward boys? No girlz allowd.
Feminism took your game boy away and replaced it with the Nintendo DS!
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:06 PM
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feminism took your game boy away and replaced it with the nintendo ds!
ds... Oh ehm gee it stands for dual sex!
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:07 PM
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ds... Oh ehm gee it stands for dual sex!
Like space goats?
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:27 PM
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False accusations of sexism just hurt legitimate ones.
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:53 PM
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Oh think of the fun you can have with your DS (Dual Sexes)

Can't be omnisexual, but hey, work with what you are given...
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:04 PM
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Gamergate totally misses the point of the issue..

Who the fuck cares if Quinn or whatever sleeps around? And?

It matters that she did so with her boss, her reviewers, and others in positions where she had something to gain.

It's about fucking corruption, not sexism, and somehow the sexist crowd got it all tangled about.
This.

Zoe Quinn seems like a shitty person, but that's as far as her involvement goes. The actual controversy is over how incestuous the gaming "press" is with the people they're supposedly covering, most especially the indie scene.

It then spiraled out of control when so many websites blocked all discussion of it, thus fanning the flames even more. Unfortunately, the whole thing's been muddied since a bunch of neckbeards made misogynist insults, and the SJW's seized upon that to try and frame the whole thing as evil manfolk harassing poor maligned Zoe Quinn. Then Sarkeesian threw herself into the mix to get some publicity for her new video, and here we are.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:08 PM
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Gamer gate is about improving games journalism, outing unethical behavior and removing political commentary. Video games is about video games, not someones social and political agenda.

Social justice fuckwits are backtracking whilst insulting others as well as using minorities and gender queer(???) people as a shield to protect themselves from criticism. Hence #Notyourshield.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:09 PM
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This.

Zoe Quinn seems like a shitty person, but that's as far as her involvement goes. The actual controversy is over how incestuous the gaming "press" is with the people they're supposedly covering, most especially the indie scene.

It then spiraled out of control when so many websites blocked all discussion of it, thus fanning the flames even more. Unfortunately, the whole thing's been muddied since a bunch of neckbeards made misogynist insults, and the SJW's seized upon that to try and frame the whole thing as evil manfolk harassing poor maligned Zoe Quinn. Then Sarkeesian threw herself into the mix to get some publicity for her new video, and here we are.
But the gamers obliviously lost their focus by attacking all of those who support her. They should focus and make clear what they are criticizing rather than let people think they are some angry mob.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:10 PM
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:42 PM
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Without actually watching the video or stepping into this arena, it should read "Death threats against whom?".
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:44 PM
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At this stage, most of my disgust is directed at the neckbeard scumbags who've covered up for Quinn, and turned any legit concerns/posts/blogs into "UR FUCKING SEXIST PIGS!" - a 'good' example being that masterdouche Phil Fish.

These "people" are twats of the highest order.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:57 PM
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But seriously, the gaming press (such as it is) and its reaction throughout all this has been embarrassing.
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Old 09-12-2014, 05:59 PM
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But seriously, the gaming press (such as it is) and its reaction throughout all this has been embarrassing.
What it is is proof that geek and gaming culture isn't mature and ready enough to be taken seriously.

Which is a shame, because it's A) not really true, and B) only because the worst of the worst of this community always seems to jump forward first.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:02 PM
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Why should gaming culture be taken seriously? The day that happens fun will die, and cinematic games will take over.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:09 PM
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I just want to play Destiny.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:10 PM
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I just want to play Destiny.
Planning on playing it tonight. Albeit on a 360.
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:19 PM
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I'll just say that #GamerGate is the biggest pile of crap I've seen in awhile. I had to unfollow a bunch of people on twitter because they were filling up my twitter with this crap.

The dumb thing is, a lot of the general principles some of these people have I agree with. I would love to see more games with strong female characters, etc. That is totally cool. You don't get there by bitching about how terrible and sexist *all* gamers are because Ms. Pacman has been "marked" with a bow (oh noes!). That's the biggest problem I have with those Anita videos (besides the fact I just hate the word "tropes" in general).

The sleeping around for good reviews thing I honestly couldn't care less about. IMO, whatever, probably not far removed from what publishers do to get good reviews on their shit (see: GameSpot).

I mean, all the death threats or whatever are awful, but welcome to the internet. It's full of horrible people.

So I don't know. I'm just sick of all the white knighting and hysteria over this.

Edit: That Ed Morrissey video is pretty good (except the parts they call Kotaku authors "journalists".. lolz

Edit 2: haha, that Anita video is even better
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