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Old 08-24-2013, 04:18 PM
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Default What will happen in the SoO end trailer

Just open to wild speculation.

So in the fight itself we see Garrosh explode, leaving just his shoulder armor. A cut scene takes place, showing all the lore characters involved in the raid miraculously showing up after he's already dead.

Vol'jin helps Thrall stand after him being knocked back by garrosh, and it leads to horde and alliance characters (Thrall, Vol'jin, Sylvanas, lor'themar, Baine and Saurfang vs Varian, Jaina, Mekkatorque, Tyrande and Moira) all facing off in the throne room ready to fight.
Thats when Varian orders the alliance to stand down, regarding some fruity words about what anduin has said and how it needs to end here. Varian remarks how he gives them no quarter, thus allowing them to choose there new warchief, and orders the alliance to leave the city. Jaina looks at Thrall silent with a cold glare, to Thralls ......, and leaves with Varian.

Vol'jin remarks on how the horde needs to be rebuilt and brought together again, and it bans to outside into the streets of orgrimmar, where the horde leaders all stand, and Saurfang giving a speech to the people, about brotherhood and jada jada.

This is where the new warchief is announced, and I won't speculate who that is right now because nobody has a clue who.

Pans back to stormwind where Anduin and Varian are talking about kingship and some shit, and it end with them two just talking about stuff, maybe Anduin smirking thinking about Wrathion's plan failing.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:19 PM
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This is not how it is going to happen.

Also the new Warchief will be Vol'jin.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:20 PM
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I think that part was sarcasm Fojar.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:23 PM
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I think that part was sarcasm Fojar.
yeah I forgot to add lordearon in there so it didn't come out as code to him.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:36 PM
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After defeating Garrosh, Mequatorque will break through the wall, yelling OOOH YEAAH! and take the credit for the kill, becoming Warchief in the aftermath.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:38 PM
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A giant tree falls on all of them, killing most of the leaders. Only Gallywix, Velen, and Greymanne survive. They still won't receive screentime in the next expansion.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:42 AM
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Just open to wild speculation.

So in the fight itself we see Garrosh explode, leaving just his shoulder armor. A cut scene takes place, showing all the lore characters involved in the raid miraculously showing up after he's already dead.

Vol'jin helps Thrall stand after him being knocked back by garrosh, and it leads to horde and alliance characters (Thrall, Vol'jin, Sylvanas, lor'themar, Baine and Saurfang vs Varian, Jaina, Mekkatorque, Tyrande and Moira) all facing off in the throne room ready to fight.
Thats when Varian orders the alliance to stand down, regarding some fruity words about what anduin has said and how it needs to end here. Varian remarks how he gives them no quarter, thus allowing them to choose there new warchief, and orders the alliance to leave the city. Jaina looks at Thrall silent with a cold glare, to Thralls ......, and leaves with Varian.

Vol'jin remarks on how the horde needs to be rebuilt and brought together again, and it bans to outside into the streets of orgrimmar, where the horde leaders all stand, and Saurfang giving a speech to the people, about brotherhood and jada jada.

This is where the new warchief is announced, and I won't speculate who that is right now because nobody has a clue who.

Pans back to stormwind where Anduin and Varian are talking about kingship and some shit, and it end with them two just talking about stuff, maybe Anduin smirking thinking about Wrathion's plan failing.
No, that's shitty.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:48 AM
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The Alliance leaves Orgrimmar to the Horde.

As the Alliance forces leave the city we see Sylvanas and her new raised soldiers. Alliance soldiers. And plague bombs. Vol'jin prepares for a new war against the Alliance, and plans to burn down Ashenvale.

Meanwhile this starts playing.


After the music ends Genn arrives with Crowley.

''Hey guys, we are ready! Guys? Hello? Anyone? Holy shit it's Sylvanas! Run! Run Crowley run! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!''
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:03 AM
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Alliance/Horde begin to dance Gangnam Style.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:15 AM
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No matter, what happens in the end, everybody on this forum will bitch about how the cinematic is crap because it doesn't fit their personal perfect outcome.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:26 AM
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No matter, what happens in the end, everybody on this forum will bitch about how the cinematic is crap because it doesn't fit their personal perfect outcome.
They should just scrap the cinematic. I mean, really. It should be that the whole MoP was a bad dream from Vol'jin who drank a new beer from Chen.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:29 AM
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They should just scrap the cinematic. I mean, really. It should be that the whole MoP was a bad dream from Vol'jin who drank a new beer from Chen.
So you want to go back to Cataclysm?
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:37 AM
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So you want to go back to Cataclysm?
Yes. They could then proceed to create a good faction war storyline, instead of...That.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:40 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if the cinematic is about Varian bowing down to his new Warchief overlord, selling out the citizens of the Alliance to that organisation of murderers and thieves.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:48 AM
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Old 08-25-2013, 04:00 AM
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Brother, why?
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Everything we've been shown of this failure of a patch is that the Alliance will yet again bow to the Horde.

This comic says it all:

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Everything we've been shown of this failure of a patch is that the Alliance will yet again bow to the Horde.
Yes, it's almost as if the Horde will actually have to remain a viable playable faction.
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Old 08-25-2013, 04:48 AM
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Yes, it's almost as if the Horde will actually have to remain a viable playable faction.
If this is the big bad problem, then Blizzard shouldn't have even tried to start this dualistic conflict in the first place, if they can think of no logical ending to be delivered aside from "I dunno, they just stopped fighting, I guess".

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Old 08-25-2013, 05:04 AM
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If this is the big bad problem, then Blizzard shouldn't have even tried to start this dualistic conflict in the first place, if they can think of no logical ending to be delivered aside from "I dunno, they just stopped fighting, I guess".

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That's certainly fine, but the fact remains that the Horde is a playable faction, despite the way that some players seem to think that this war should end in a manner that would be even more unsatisfactory for the Horde and its player base than the grand sum of prior Alliance problems in World of Warcraft. I just wish that proposals made by faction-exclusive players actually bothered giving one damn consideration that other people play "the Other" faction and may want a satisfactory gaming experience on their end. As someone who enjoyed playing both factions, it get's infuriating when faction-exclusive players try to screw over the playing experience of the other faction.
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:12 AM
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Everything we've been shown of this failure of a patch is that the Alliance will yet again bow to the Horde.

This comic says it all:

I love how this strip conveniently presents the factions living in a nice little sandbox where a potential attack on Undercity won't provoke an immediate reaction from the closest kingdom on the continent allied to them for the sake of presenting Varian/Stormwind/the Alliance as idiots.

/shrug Horde bias I guess?

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Old 08-25-2013, 05:28 AM
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That's certainly fine, but the fact remains that the Horde is a playable faction, despite the way that some players seem to think that this war should end in a manner that would be even more unsatisfactory for the Horde and its player base than the grand sum of prior Alliance problems in World of Warcraft. I just wish that proposals made by faction-exclusive players actually bothered giving one damn consideration that other people play "the Other" faction and may want a satisfactory gaming experience on their end. As someone who enjoyed playing both factions, it get's infuriating when faction-exclusive players try to screw over the playing experience of the other faction.
As someone who played almost exclusively Horde, I think there's nothing malicious or infuriating about their musings - as long as we discuss it from the lore standpoint.

You bring up the meta standpoint - Blizzard can't just stop and ruing the game for the Horde players in the name of the lore. But the characters do not operate on it it (unless the devs decide to break the fourth wall). This civil war in the Horde and the whole siege of Orgrimmar has been advertised as the next big stepping stone in the development of faction, the one that will lead to the Horde's new fall and the Alliance's rise to power as a "victorious juggernaut", akin to the fall of Azeroth in the First War, the splintering and imprisoning of the Horde in the Second War, the fall of the Alliance in the Third War. The Alliance leaders have got a win-win situation on their hands: whoever wins the civil war, they can clean up the aftermath and reign supreme. They've got a chance to strike and reconquer after the embarrassingly stupid campaigns in... pretty much everywhere during the Cataclysm. Maybe not Stonetalon, I dunno.

From a purely lore standpoint, there's no way that King Varian "Caveman" Wrynn would just turn around and go away after the fight. The impact of the war is thus incredibly downgraded, it is turned into a meaningless mess. It feels like a game, a football match the two empires had for fun and then just shrugged off and went home in the aftermath.

If the writers simply can't handle ever hurting the Horde, then we should have had Alliance as the loosing faction. Even the "new threat forces a fast stalemate treaty" event could work, provided the treaty actually deals with at least SOME of the problems that led to the escalation of Alliance-Horde conflict - some extremists may be left angry, but c'est la vie.

But if they didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, Alliance or Horde, then they shouldn't have even started this kind of event, knowing that no satisfying conclusion can be delivered.

To give the writers a cookie, it may, in fact, be a problem with WoW itself as a medium unsuited for the kind of thing they were going for. But, again, why try it at all, then? It's not like the "Bring War to Warcraft!" movement has ever been a factor.

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The Faction War has been a meaningless mess since it first started back in Lich King.

And don't give them any excuse because of WoW. There's plenty of ways to show the Alliance get a few things in, like supremacy over, say, Orgrimmar for a few patches by replacing Orc guards with Human Footmen and Overseers. The Alliance could do a sneak-attack on Lordaeron during or directly after SoO and simply not succeeding, or hell, give them a questhub or two to show their advance, have the Forsaken receive reinforcements and call a hostile stalemate. They could do a lot in this situation, they simply don't want to, and when i look at Alliance posters these days i kinda don't wonder why anymore. It's high time this idiocy of a War is done with and ended, for the betterment of the Lore, the game and most importantly the player base.
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:56 AM
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