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Old 05-26-2017, 01:22 PM
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But your rates, as a younger person, will be substantially lower?
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But your rates, as a younger person, will be substantially lower?
I have asthma.
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How.. How do you think insurance worked before?
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:41 PM
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How.. How do you think insurance worked before?
Pre-existing conditions didn't matter for a bit there. I also have a labral tear in my left shoulder and tinnitus. Hopefully I'll be able to get the VA to cover stuff related to those issues. If not, I'm pretty sure I'll be stuck with shitty expensive plans that won't or will barely cover them since they're pre-existing.
I think people are forgetting how shitty the whole "pre-existing conditions" thing was and how insurance companies would jump through hoops to say anything wrong with you was pre-existing so they wouldn't have to pay for stuff.

[edit] I was wondering why this thread was really quiet about the Manchester bombing. Turns out the bomber was a British-born Muslim who had been banned from his Mosque and had been reported to the authorities numerous times.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:09 PM
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There's also the fact that American media outlets have been cut-off from their normal sources, so the news cycle hasn't been pounding out narratives. Plus, despite how horrific the bombing was, this is still the point of shock for everyone. The respective factions will have their drumbeats fully rolling soon enough.

Back to insurance, youth is now only a small factor in insurance rates. The push for data collection from insurance companies has been to figure out alternate means to claim reasons for rate hikes. Someone's obese? Rate hike. Someone's single and sexually active? Rate hike. Etcetera. Now it's not about pre-existing conditions, but currently existing "lifestyles". There's an effort in tech to combine social media usage (e.g. Facebook) with insurance datasets so they can see a more refined version of how much a person actually does all the above.

So Kakwakas' self-admitted alcohol usage here isn't going to raise any red flags, but if it hits facebook he'd have a potential flag on his file for how much he actually drinks (versus his personal estimation). If it's far in excess or if he lied about some other activity, then they'd also have grounds to terminate his contract if he misreported anything.
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:38 PM
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"The new tax, 19 percent or more of premiums, will be added on top of the cost of policies purchased through the individual-market health insurance exchanges. It is a result of Trump’s decision to create as much chaos as possible in the health-care market — in this case by not committing to continue to reimburse billions of dollars of cost-sharing payments owed to insurers just as they set prices for next year. And the president couldn’t have been more clear about why he’s imposing this tax: He thinks disrupting the Affordable Care Act exchanges, which serve more than 12 million Americans, will force Democrats to agree to proposals in his budget and in the House health-care bill that would take coverage away from tens of millions."
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You still can't be denied for pre-existing conditions.
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You still can't be denied for pre-existing conditions.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...nder_ahca.html

It's no longer about being denied for pre-existing conditions, it's about being priced out of the market completely due to any conditions whatsoever.
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Old 05-26-2017, 05:42 PM
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It's no longer about being denied for pre-existing conditions, it's about being priced out of the market completely due to any conditions whatsoever.
Unlikely for a variety of reasons. Namely that this reforms not going to last any longer than ACA
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Old 05-26-2017, 06:32 PM
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Unlikely for a variety of reasons. Namely that this reforms not going to last any longer than ACA
The CBO was wrong when it came to the PPACA enrollment as well. It isn't because they are stupid or anything but people don't appreciate how predicting something like this is an impossible thing to do. Abiding by them is a resignation to the status quo and averse to any sort of risk taking or new ideas. There are other analysis available and judgement being put into this. People can hypothesize as much as they would like but until it is implemented we won't know its impacts. The PPACA is far from perfect and isn't anything like it was advertised. A lot of the people who are insured can't even use their insurance. Continuous improvement is a constant process.

I would have liked to see tort reform tied into this somehow because that is a clear cost cutting measure but it comes at the expense of trial lawyers which are a powerful lobby.
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Unlikely for a variety of reasons. Namely that this reforms not going to last any longer than ACA
That's not really a rebuttal to the question, that's just a statement of political prospect.
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The CBO was wrong when it came to the PPACA enrollment as well. It isn't because they are stupid or anything but people don't appreciate how predicting something like this is an impossible thing to do. Abiding by them is a resignation to the status quo and averse to any sort of risk taking or new ideas. There are other analysis available and judgement being put into this. People can hypothesize as much as they would like but until it is implemented we won't know its impacts. The PPACA is far from perfect and isn't anything like it was advertised. A lot of the people who are insured can't even use their insurance. Continuous improvement is a constant process.

I would have liked to see tort reform tied into this somehow because that is a clear cost cutting measure but it comes at the expense of trial lawyers which are a powerful lobby.
You didn't answer my question, you just said the PPACA wasn't perfect, which I already noted. I also pointed out that McConnell refused to try to make it more viable, because "socialism" (which it's not, otherwise it'd work quite a bit better, as exemplified by numerous Canadian and European national health systems).

Also, do you even understand what tort reform is or are you just reading Fox News articles and throwing out random words?
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"Two men were killed in a stabbing on a MAX train Friday when they tried to intervene as another man yelled racial slurs at two young women who appeared to be Muslim, including one wearing a hijab, police said."
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This is Gizmoduck, whose secret identity is Fenton Crackshell. For the Ducktales remake, he will be voiced by Lin-Manuel Miranda (yay!) and his name changed to Fenton Crackshell-Cabrera (boo!)

Why did I shout boo to this Hispanic-y name change?
Because it's lazy. Cabrera is not a joke name.



Every name in this universe is supposed to be a joke name. Scrooge McDuck, Mrs. Beakley, Gyro Gearloose, Magica De Spell, Launchpad McQuack, Flintheart Glomgold, Webbigail Vanderquack... if we look to other Spanish-Portuguese examples in the Duck Universe, we have Donald's friends Panchito Pistoles and Jose Carioca.

But Cabrera? It's just a name. It's like adding the name "Weinstein" to a character to tell us he's Jewish. There's a real life baseball player with the name, but that has nothing to do with Fenton. The word "Cabrera" is related to goats, but that's not relevant in this situation. Now, a goat character being named Cabrera would've been great...

But this, this is just a lazy attempt at diversifying. Boo! Entertain us, you hooligans!

EDIT: Here's one: how about Fenton Cáscaron? There. Easy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascarón
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EDIT: Here's one: how about Fenton Cáscaron? There. Easy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascarón
That would be much better yeah.
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