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Old 03-23-2017, 03:44 PM
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Ech.

On the one hand, French Canadians (Québec included) speak a Romance language, so you can make the claim that they're Latin Americans. On the other hand, the term Latino typically refers (perhaps erroneously, and therein lies the rub) to Spanish-speaking or descended persons, which (by and large) isn't a label which can be accurately pinned on French Canada.

I would hardly consider such a disagreement worth starting a fistfight, but I can understand why someone might feel that were mischaracterizing them.

Now, insisting the French Canadian were Québécois?
No one would argue that Brazilians aren't Latino, and they don't speak Spanish.

If Brazilians (who don't speak Spanish) count and Mexicans count (they're in North America) then the Quebecois should count. Haitians too.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:53 PM
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:16 PM
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No one would argue that Brazilians aren't Latino, and they don't speak Spanish.

If Brazilians (who don't speak Spanish) count and Mexicans count (they're in North America) then the Quebecois should count. Haitians too.
This just seems like a debate of prescriptive vs descriptive language, frankly.

Latino and latin american are terms with ethnic connotations as much (if not more so) as linguistic connotations. While a strict adherence to what's in the term unquestionably supports your position, in common parlance, its use seems restricted to Spanish (and you're right, Brazilian Portuguese in the case of Brazil) speakers, and more often than not to persons in a certain range of tan.

Again, consider that its derogatory form of "spic" is unlikely to see much use with black Creole-speakers or white French speakers.

Hence, technically correct, but not in practice.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:41 PM
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As in, someone descended from African-Mexicans would simply be listed as African-American? Would mestizo be its own category (perhaps due to sheer population size)?

Calling everyone from Latin America Hispanic is sort of like referring to all East Asians as Confucians.
African-American or Black (someone of black African but not necessarily purely black African descent). Yes to mestizo, for sure.

Let me correct that somewhat. I'd go all in.

-White/European
  • -European descent
  • -European descent but Latin American origin
  • -Middle Eastern or North African descent
  • -Combination of above
-Black/African
  • -African descent
  • -African-American (descendants of slaves or colonial era Africans) descent
  • -African descent but non-African origin
  • -Combination of above
-East Asian
  • -East Asian descent
  • -East Asian descent but non-East Asian origin
  • -Combination of above
-Central Asian
  • -Central Asian descent
  • -Central Asian descent but non-Central Asian origin
  • -Combination of above
-Native American/First Nations/Aboriginal
  • -Native American descent
  • -Native American descent but non-American origin
  • -Combination of above
-Indian
  • -Indian descent
  • -Indian descent but non-Indian origin
  • -Combination of above
-Mestizo
  • -Mestizo descent
  • -Mestizo descent but Latin American origin
  • -Combination of above
-Pacific Islander
  • -Pacific Islander descent
  • -Pacific Islander from American territory (Samoa) descent
  • -Combination of above
-Mixed Race
  • -Check above that applies

I'm sure I missed a few as well, but for America this should cover just about everybody.

Origin would define country of origin. Example: A British-Nigerian that immigrates to the US.

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Old 03-23-2017, 05:07 PM
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Yeah but you think I'm racist when I eat the sweet creamy white part of the Oreo before I eat the dry black cookie parts. Also, don't care, Urgots time has finally come!
Obviously you eat the white first. Have to purge the cookie of its evil.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:13 PM
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Fun fact the term "Latin America" was born in France and was first used as propaganda during the French invasion of Mexico.

Latin was supposed to imply a mutual culture between French and Spanish speaking Mexicans and exclude the Anglo Saxon so.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:13 PM
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obviously you eat the white first. Have to purge the cookie of its evil.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:23 PM
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I... authentically did not mean to set off a rabbit trail with "Hispanic". I apologize.

And Cantus, I should not have taken such a tone with you over a topic so frivolous. I was probably just upset about the Horde fleet in the Second War. You do a great job whooping up the spam bots and attending to us, all while still balancing a normal life. I'll try to act less childish toward you in the future.

And also I have been drinking alcohol tonight. I downloaded Battleship on my phone because I miss Darrowmere. But then my son stole my phone to play Ninja Turtles. White Hispanic.

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Old 03-23-2017, 08:36 PM
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I... authentically did not mean to set off a rabbit trail with "Hispanic". I apologize.

And Cantus, I should not have taken such a tone with you over a topic so frivolous. I was probably just upset about the Horde fleet in the Second War. You do a great job whooping up the spam bots and attending to us, all while still balancing a normal life. I'll try to act less childish toward you in the future.

And also I have been drinking alcohol tonight. I downloaded Battleship on my phone because I miss Darrowmere. But then my son stole my phone to play Ninja Turtles. White Hispanic.

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Do you normally drink a lot or are you having real life issues?
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:49 PM
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Do you normally drink a lot or are you having real life issues?
(I generally post here every time I drink with my wife, and I use the moment to hyperbolize for the sake of personal entertainment. But also, a couple of drinks puts me in a better mood, and you guys deserve that.)
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:54 PM
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Do you normally drink a lot or are you having real life issues?
Catholics, we always take alcohol to one extreme or the other.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:11 PM
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Catholics, we always take alcohol to one extreme or the other.
You start with the bad stuff, but then you drink the GOOD stuff. John 2:10.

Also a metaphor for the New Covenant, but you know. Different thread.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:15 PM
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Do you normally drink a lot or are you having real life issues?
I hope there's no taboo against posting under the influence of alcohol, since I know I've posted after a drink or two on a number of occasions.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:22 PM
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I... authentically did not mean to set off a rabbit trail with "Hispanic". I apologize.

And Cantus, I should not have taken such a tone with you over a topic so frivolous. I was probably just upset about the Horde fleet in the Second War. You do a great job whooping up the spam bots and attending to us, all while still balancing a normal life. I'll try to act less childish toward you in the future.

And also I have been drinking alcohol tonight. I downloaded Battleship on my phone because I miss Darrowmere. But then my son stole my phone to play Ninja Turtles. White Hispanic.

You guys rock!
No offense was taken then, none taken now. Shit gets heated yo.

Also, it should always be said, it's a team effort. The other Staff have done and continue to be huge support for each other. Whether doing mechanical maintenance, providing cogent opinions (including slapping each other [myself most certainly included] upside the head where necessary), or making shit fun around here, they're core to everything.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:31 PM
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I hope there's no taboo against posting under the influence of alcohol, since I know I've posted after a drink or two on a number of occasions.
I sometimes do too.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:38 PM
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I sometimes do too.
I imagine most non-teetotalers (do we have any teetotalers on SoL?) have at some point.

And unless someone's gets incredibly aggressive when they're drunkposting, that's a-okay*.

*Drink responsibly.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:00 PM
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Fun fact the term "Latin America" was born in France and was first used as propaganda during the French invasion of Mexico.

Latin was supposed to imply a mutual culture between French and Spanish speaking Mexicans and exclude the Anglo Saxon so.
I was actually named after the French emperor of Mexico, despite my family being neither Mexican nor French.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:07 PM
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(do we have any teetotalers on SoL?)
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:16 PM
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I... authentically did not mean to set off a rabbit trail with "Hispanic". I apologize.

And Cantus, I should not have taken such a tone with you over a topic so frivolous. I was probably just upset about the Horde fleet in the Second War. You do a great job whooping up the spam bots and attending to us, all while still balancing a normal life. I'll try to act less childish toward you in the future.

And also I have been drinking alcohol tonight. I downloaded Battleship on my phone because I miss Darrowmere. But then my son stole my phone to play Ninja Turtles. White Hispanic.

You guys rock!
Is what you posted somehow worse than what I posted about how I would redo parts of the census?

Also, Cantus: I had a bot post some spam on profile-thingy a few months ago. I was going to say something when asked a page or so ago, but totally forgot.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:12 AM
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:33 AM
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"Son, never trust a man who doesn’t drink because he’s probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They’re the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They’re usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they’re a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can’t trust a man who’s afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It’s damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he’s heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl."
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:25 AM
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I'd say 14/88 is a much bigger deal as it's related to known hatespeech, while KYS doesn't have that connotation.
Yes, because wanting White people not to become extinct (which is currently well on course to happen) is hate speech.

And you and your ilk still wonder why there's a surge in White Nationalism?

I'm refering to the 14 words here, the 88 is just retarded because anyone tying themselves to Hitler or the Nazis is just making sure the Mainsteam Media and Society turn against you.
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Old 03-24-2017, 04:22 AM
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Do you normally drink a lot or are you having real life issues?
I find this to be an odd question. Is someone saying they are drinking a cause for concern? I only find it odd because I have a few beers every now and then throughout the week and I don't get asked if I am having issues so Im just curious
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:36 AM
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I... authentically did not mean to set off a rabbit trail with "Hispanic". I apologize.
"Set off a rabbit trail"?

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Old 03-24-2017, 07:55 AM
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