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Old 08-05-2017, 02:43 PM
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This is a hypothetical, but if we were to get playable ethereals next expansion do you think Chronicle 3 would give information on K'aresh in preparation (like Chronicle 1 talking about some Legion stuff) or that its focus would be entirely on Azeroth since DotD to Cata is a lot to cover for one book?
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:05 PM
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This is a hypothetical, but if we were to get playable ethereals next expansion do you think Chronicle 3 would give information on K'aresh in preparation (like Chronicle 1 talking about some Legion stuff) or that its focus would be entirely on Azeroth since DotD to Cata is a lot to cover for one book?
I think we'd get at least a sub-section or two in the same way we got what we did on Elisande and Prince Farondis in Vol. 1.
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Old 08-06-2017, 07:04 PM
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I think we'd get at least a sub-section or two in the same way we got what we did on Elisande and Prince Farondis in Vol. 1.
Probably in the TBC section.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:43 AM
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Does anyone remember how Grom's scream was described in the books? Been having a chat with a dude that claims it would sound something like a death metal howl or something, but I imagine it would sound more along of his speaking voice in Warcraft 2.

Basically some nice AC DC shit, but on steroids. More likely to carry enough to pierce as many ears as it did in the books.
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Old 08-09-2017, 04:13 PM
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Who/where are the other Titans? As in Titans that are not of the Pantheon. Chronicles says that the Pantheon searched to awaken other World Souls, and as they searched they found fewer and fewer. Where are these seldom found Titan? They never get a mention. One would think that such powerful creatures as the Titans, even though not part of the Pantheon would show up or be mentioned. This is of course excluding Argus, Azeroth, and the one that Sargeras killed.
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Old 08-09-2017, 04:27 PM
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Who/where are the other Titans? As in Titans that are not of the Pantheon. Chronicles says that the Pantheon searched to awaken other World Souls, and as they searched they found fewer and fewer. Where are these seldom found Titan? They never get a mention. One would think that such powerful creatures as the Titans, even though not part of the Pantheon would show up or be mentioned. This is of course excluding Argus, Azeroth, and the one that Sargeras killed.
The Pantheon are the ones they found. They weren't always together; Aman'Thul woke up first and found the other ones, and over time finding each member took longer and longer.
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Old 08-09-2017, 05:55 PM
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Though it's still possible there are are Titans in another corner of the universe.
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Old 08-09-2017, 06:48 PM
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Though it's still possible there are are Titans in another corner of the universe.
Oh of course. But like Argus they'd be ones the Pantheon never found.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:03 AM
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The Pantheon are the ones they found. They weren't always together; Aman'Thul woke up first and found the other ones, and over time finding each member took longer and longer.
Granted I don't have Chronicles in front of me, but at least how Wowpedia puts it (From both the Titan, World Soul, and Pantheon sections), it's as if the Pantheon had already formed and found the "fewer and fewer". It's worded Aman'Thul found his "siblings", they form the Pantheon, then get to work finding others and ordering worlds, which did not show up as often.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:41 AM
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Is there a list somewhere of what uses different herbs have in lore? Like a fan-compiled one, based on things like quest text or gossip dialogue.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:04 PM
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Is there a list somewhere of what uses different herbs have in lore? Like a fan-compiled one, based on things like quest text or gossip dialogue.
http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Eveshka..._Outland_Herbs
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:21 PM
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Is there a list somewhere of what uses different herbs have in lore? Like a fan-compiled one, based on things like quest text or gossip dialogue.
Here's one from the EU Role-Playing forums, though as far as I can tell it was last updated in 2014.

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9751515984

The one Revenant linked seems to be more of a compilation of fan fiction about Herbalism plants.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:35 PM
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Here's one from the EU Role-Playing forums, though as far as I can tell it was last updated in 2014.

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9751515984

The one Revenant linked seems to be more of a compilation of fan fiction about Herbalism plants.

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Old 08-12-2017, 02:06 PM
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Thanks for the welcome!

By the way, how does one include the "Originally Posted by X" when quoting?

EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:09 PM
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Thanks for the welcome!

By the way, how does one include the "Originally Posted by X" when quoting?

EDIT: Nevermind, figured it out.
In case you're not quoting a SoL post, you can include it manually by adding "=[Name]" to the quote tag.

[QUOTE=Pepe Stormstout], for example.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:12 PM
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Here's one from the EU Role-Playing forums, though as far as I can tell it was last updated in 2014.

https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9751515984

The one Revenant linked seems to be more of a compilation of fan fiction about Herbalism plants.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:05 PM
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Once again, about the Sargerite keystone. I'm starting to think that Illidan created the rift between Argus and Azeroth thanks to Gul'dan's spellwork at the Nightspire. Perhaps, that older rift wasn't as closed as it thought to be. Maybe a tiny crack still remained there even after everything was said and done. The demon hunters didn't use just the keystone to create their portal either - they merely used the key on pre-existing Legion portal. It would also explain why the Legion didn't use the keystone in the same manner as Illidan - they couldn't do it without a huge rift opened on Azeroth. And it took a large amount of time and power to prepare it. And the demons would prefer to spend such efforts to summon their masters (and let's not forget about hubris and personal goals of said masters).

As for Illidan being able to pull this off - it's just fine. He is a genius spellcaster that spent a lot of time preparing for this event.

The grand scale of this rift can be explained by the fact that it was created via corrupted titan tech. Who knows what else is this key capable of. Perhaps, it was even destroyed during the cinematic - it would also explain the scale of the rift. But the last bit is unlikely. IRC, the keystone will be found again in 7.3. It will be used to create rifts to other worlds under the siege of the Legion.

And "the key to all worlds" vs. "a key to all Legion worlds" isn't even an issue. Outland doesn't strike me as a Legion world. This skeleton key is used to travel to various Legion worlds, yet it doesn't mean that it can't be used to access other planets. Likely, one needs to know the coordinates and to make some preparations for it - yet it's still possible. Plus, it's a corrupted titan device, which means it wasn't created for the Legion's sake.

BTW, I thought about the Tomb of Sargeras being the ancor for the rift, but if it was the case, the Legion would conduct the ritual to summon Sargeras inside Illidan's body there. And while there was a portal to Argus, it wasn't an open crack in reality with Argus itself being seen on the distance. But who knows.
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:55 PM
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That one doesn't work either, as the legion portal was sealed in the exact same manner as it was 10000 years ago, with the exact same artifacts in the exact same place doing the exact same thing. If the keystone could bypass that, it should have been able to bypass the sealing of the original portal.
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Old 08-20-2017, 05:40 PM
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That one doesn't work either, as the legion portal was sealed in the exact same manner as it was 10000 years ago, with the exact same artifacts in the exact same place doing the exact same thing. If the keystone could bypass that, it should have been able to bypass the sealing of the original portal.
What exactly doesn't work?
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Old 08-20-2017, 05:48 PM
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What type of magic does blood magic fall under? Nature? And I mean actual blood magic, not blood elf fire mages.
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What type of magic does blood magic fall under? Nature? And I mean actual blood magic, not blood elf fire mages.
Blood magic probably falls into the realm of Shadow, as if functionally amounts to sacrificial magic. The fel pretty specifically consumes life to create more fel, but sacrificial Shadow magic seems to vary in the nature of its results depending upon the sacrificial medium that's being used. We see it with voodoo; blood, flesh, bone, souls and "mojo" can all be expended as reagents or used as foci in tandem with other materials depending upon what the caster wishes to accomplish.
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:59 AM
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What type of magic does blood magic fall under? Nature? And I mean actual blood magic, not blood elf fire mages.

"There's nature magic, like druids use, and light magic, like priests/pallies use. Blood was tortured life. Fel is Chaos."
- a tweet from Jeremy Feasel

"Blood Death Knight. A dark guardian who manipulates and corrupts life energy to sustain himself in the face of an enemy onslaught." - official description of the spec

"Blood as a power source - a very powerful form of life magic. The work of the titans, perhaps? How does it work?" - Lor'themar Theron

"Them Bleeding Hollow orcs do blood magic - like voodoo but it hurt more. They cut their own flesh. Most of 'em carry curved ritual blades for carvin' themselves up." - Shadow Hunter Denjai

"To survive in de harsh desert, de Sandfury had to learn all de secrets of blood magic. You drink de blood, you get de power...darkest voodoo, yah? But dere be no room for holdin' back out here."
- Mazoga

"Blood magic is shunned by many as a dark and forgotten art. In that and many other ways, it shares some distinct characteristics with demonic magic. Here, in the demon-scourged remains of the Black Morass, we believe that our blood studies will flourish." -bloodmage Lynnore

So here you go. Blood magic is a form of Life magic. It shares some similarities with Fel due to its concept of sacrifice and fueling itself by said sacrifice - which is very similar to the way how Fel works. It's also similar to Voodoo because Voodoo has similar connections to the power of Life and is also somewhat corrupt magic.

Granted, there's also vampirism. It's something that was born thanks to the Void (not just feeding on blood - any fom of vampirism), because the very concept of vampirism was one of the main features of the original Void. Voodoo as a whole might have some connections with the Void too, but it's more of Nature and Spirit magics. Anyways, pure blood manipulation is still form of Life magic. And in theory, both Light and Void can be viewed as progenitors of all other forms of magic.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:10 AM
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Thank you, Kiraser.

And since both of you mentioned it, What even is voodoo (besides that we should come get it)? Is it just the troll word for magic, or what?
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:25 AM
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Thank you, Kiraser.

And since both of you mentioned it, What even is voodoo (besides that we should come get it)? Is it just the troll word for magic, or what?
It's a specific form of magic.

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Thank you, Kiraser.

And since both of you mentioned it, What even is voodoo (besides that we should come get it)? Is it just the troll word for magic, or what?
A troll mix of various kinds of magics, mostly life and elemental it seems.

Dash of biological and alchemical junk in there too though.
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