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Old 11-25-2013, 07:32 AM
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I've seen worse things happen to other races.

Honestly, it sucks too but it hasn't completely destroyed the Dwarves like other racial developments have put other races into oblivion.
Well if it's any consolation, Ironforge is the only Alliance capital which wasn't destroyed so far.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:35 AM
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Well if it's any consolation, Ironforge is the only Alliance capital which wasn't destroyed so far.
Dwarves are basically the tank race of the game. No matter how much they get the shit beat out of them, they still retain a lot of dignity and some pride.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:36 AM
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What's your opinion on Varian dissolving the Dwarven government and setting up a puppet council
It's shitty that he did it but it's made the Dwarves even more awesome and can really be ignored because it's not mentioned in game. Just some poorly written tie in novel.
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Old 11-25-2013, 07:38 AM
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Dwarves are basically the tank race of the game. No matter how much they get the shit beat out of them, they still retain a lot of dignity and some pride.
Actually, I should rephrase that and say that the shittiest Lore developments don't really hit them as hard as it does other races.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:56 AM
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Actually, I should rephrase that and say that the shittiest Lore developments don't really hit them as hard as it does other races.
I think it helps that Dwarves have a very clear identity, place within the alliance and lot of lore from pre WoW and vanilla wow to work with. Other races have pretty much used up their lore or had very little to begin with. Also not being the focus of an expansion has actually helped them by not making them hit with an evil/idiot bat and not used up all their story in one go.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:26 AM
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I think it helps that Dwarves have a very clear identity, place within the alliance and lot of lore from pre WoW and vanilla wow to work with. Other races have pretty much used up their lore or had very little to begin with. Also not being the focus of an expansion has actually helped them by not making them hit with an evil/idiot bat and not used up all their story in one go.
True, and dwarves are a staple race when it comes to pretty much every single fantasy setting imanigible.

And as we can see Blizzard chooses not to mess with them too much.

I wonder if it also has anything to do with how close they are with humans, and humans, like orcs, being the base of the entire franchise.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:27 AM
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I think it helps that Dwarves have a very clear identity, place within the alliance and lot of lore from pre WoW and vanilla wow to work with. Other races have pretty much used up their lore or had very little to begin with. Also not being the focus of an expansion has actually helped them by not making them hit with an evil/idiot bat and not used up all their story in one go.
Well they have stuff like the Stormpike, Explorer's League in Mulgore, and Marshal Twinbraid, but unlike other controversial groups I actually like all of them.

I think Twinbraid might actually be one of my top 5 favorite Dwarf NPC's, in fact.
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:16 AM
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It's one thing to have problems and voice your concerns, but when you endlessly bitch day in and day out about the same tired old shit, it honestly makes me wonder why you are even here. Generally when somebody doesn't like something, they stop caring about it.

And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:22 AM
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:32 AM
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No.... just stop linking SF threads here....

They are cancer... that slowly kill any thread that they are transmitted into...
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I'm a Dwarf fanboy now, this does little to affect me.
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:49 AM
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Welcome to the club!
Indeed.

Hail to the Alliance race that mixes excellent ferocity with intelligence while not getting shit on by the Lore!
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:20 AM
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:26 AM
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The second coming of the world which aims to further divide itself. FRACTIONS
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:28 AM
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It's one thing to have problems and voice your concerns, but when you endlessly bitch day in and day out about the same tired old shit, it honestly makes me wonder why you are even here. Generally when somebody doesn't like something, they stop caring about it.

And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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The second coming of the world which aims to further divide itself. FRACTIONS
Sums up every single post you make.

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:32 AM
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Sums up every single post you make.
So rude.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:32 AM
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So rude.
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Yes, and?
Well aren't you a sassy cat.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:41 AM
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That sucks but ah well.

Warcraft Dwarves > LOTR Dwarves
That is simply and qualitatively FALSE.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:54 AM
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That is simply and qualitatively FALSE.
Why's that?

I like Warcraft Dwarves more because they're more industrial and a bit more controversial.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:01 PM
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Why's that?

I like Warcraft Dwarves more because they're more industrial and a bit more controversial.
Clearly, you are not familiar with the long and storied history of Durin's Folk.

I'd tell it to you now, along with bonus interpretations which make the Dwarves even more badass, but I'm running short on time just now. Suffice to say for now, the Khazad are fucking amazing.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:04 PM
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I'm up in the air on that one. The problem with all of LotR's non-human folks is that they are 'doomed' to fade away. Not a big fan of that. They are pretty badass in the Similarilion.

In WoW dwarves are the rock of the Alliance, and I hope one day Magni comes back to be king and kick ass.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:23 PM
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I'm up in the air on that one. The problem with all of LotR's non-human folks is that they are 'doomed' to fade away. Not a big fan of that. They are pretty badass in the Similarilion.

In WoW dwarves are the rock of the Alliance, and I hope one day Magni comes back to be king and kick ass.
Yeah I don't like that either.
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:46 PM
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Agreed, I do not like settings with "fading" races/species. It feels so artificial.
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