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  1. Ethenil
    10-17-2016 03:20 PM
    I also like Anveena

    You know, I completely disregard the 'one Legion all realities'. To me, this doesn't exist. Up until now, ignoring it hasn't created any lore flaws, so I'm going with it. If any problems arise, I'll try to explain my way past them.

    Thus, Archimonde dies physically at Hyjal and later reformed in the Twisting Nether because he is a demon. We haven't heard from him since. The one in WoD is a completely separately version of him, who never got to see Hyjal again.
  2. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 12:54 PM
    Two things

    1.) I rather liked Anveena; she started out as an disguise but gained life on her own; her story was also tragic; she gives her life to save the world but aside from the people at sunwell plateau and Kalec no one knows she even existed.

    2.) I think Archimonde should have died for good or at the very least be badly injured by the blast of Hyjal. The "one legion all realities" opens a lot of plot holes. My compromise would be that unless the demon is hit by a REALLY powerful source of energy (for instance the world tree blowing up for archimonde, ash bringer for someone like Balnazzar) Demons do need to be killed in the Nether.
  3. Ethenil
    10-17-2016 12:16 PM
  4. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 02:02 AM
    It's like Kerrigan; she finally realizes she's been selfish and cruel and so mellows out in act 3 of heart, sparing the people of korhal even when she thinks jim will never forgive her and has no incentive other than it would be the right thing to do. Kerrigan was bad but she finally pulls her head out of her ass and actually becomes a real hero in the end. Could have happened earlier but hey better late than never
  5. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 02:00 AM
    Another thing about Illidan; my impression is that he WANTED to be a hero but was so hamstrung by his ego he screwed himself over. In the illidan book A'dal understands the legions threat and mentions fighting against it for years; he understood even when illidan arrogantly thought it was him alone. If he had worked with others like the naaru things lie the hand of gul'dan massacre would have been unnecessary.

    Basically Illidan's ego held him back; Hawki has a story where Illidan has mellowed out and realized to an extent the folly of his ways. If THAT Illidan is in legion I think fewer people would be upset of if xe'ra acknowledges his weaknesses as well
  6. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 01:58 AM
    PS one of the things recovered in outland is part of the ata'mal crystal

    I would have had Tirion be gifted one of the shards and that amplifies his connection to the light enough to fight the lich king on even ground.
  7. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 01:58 AM
    My idea was that in ice crown as the armies of the Ashen Verdict clash with those of the Scourge Arthas faces Tirion and the others at the top. He incapacitates them. As he does his ritual he unleashes a bigass army he's kept in reserve to unleash on the forces of the ashen verdict. Tirion breaks free using the light and shatters frostmourne, halting the army as the heroes hack arthas to pieces.

    One explanation for why the orcs turn; garrosh oppresses the tauren blood elves forsaken and trolls and while the orcs may not like humans (not for no reason; the camps basically abused even the children who did nothing) they realize that garrosh is becoming a tyrant. The tauren and the others are their family too and Garrosh finally crosses the line attacking family. Maybe even have it that while some cheered Theramore may were also appalled even if they didn't show it. Or add alliance war crimes besides taurajo
  8. Ethenil
    10-17-2016 01:37 AM
    As for Garrosh, absolutely! I will also probably note the difference between "city orcs" of Orgrimmar, Razor Hill, etc. and "rural orcs" of the Barrens and such. I don't know how exactly I'll be going with this, but you can count that I'll include it.

    I didn't really understand your comment on Arthas. Did you mean Icecrown Citadel instead of Light's Hope? If so, I do believe that Arthas had the upper hand, and eventually went all "APOCALYPSE" on us, and utterly killed us all, except for Tirion. The Miracle freed him, stunning the Lich King and allowing Ashbringer to shatter Frostmourne, thus releasing the souls within, including Terenas, who proceeded to resurrect (in one of the few instances in canon lore where someone's is actually resurrected) the players.
  9. Ol'Yoggy
    10-17-2016 01:14 AM
    You should make it that many of the orcs didn't like Garrosh all that much (have it that more orcs rebel against Garrosh for instance; blizz says that happened even though they don't show it.)

    Or with Arthas have it that at the same time the heroes besieged Light's hope he unleashes his reserves; things go badly until the light shatters the cage.
  10. Ethenil
    10-17-2016 12:15 AM
    But remember, I don't change the story in any way - I rather interpret it in a realistic manner, so Garrosh will still be besieged in Orgrimmar, N'Zoth still won't be free, etc. The truth is, while such changes might have made the story better, they are still only imaginary. I prefer rather to take what we have and make it awesome

    Anyway, any specific comments or anything that might have caught your attention?

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