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handclaw 05-01-2016 02:54 PM

StarCraft: Evolution - New SC Novel
 
So, I just came upon this information about the next starcraft novel:

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StarCraft: Evolution is an upcoming StarCraft novel written by Timothy Zahn. It will take place years after StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void, and deal with the relationship between the three major powers of the Koprulu sector after the conflict.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160427211121

The war between the terrans, the protoss, and the zerg has been over for years, but the fight for peace is still being waged. As the Terran Dominion struggles to recover from the ravages of war, Emperor Valerian Mengsk has no intention of ruling in the same bloody manner as his father, the late Arcturus Mengsk. Instead of seeking vengeance, Valerian is determined to maintain the peace. So when he receives an urgent plea for aid from Zagara, Overqueen of the savage zerg Swarm, he agrees to hear her case despite his personal misgivings and the severe disapproval of Hierarch Artanis of the protoss.

Zagara claims that the Swarm has changed. No longer bent on destruction, they have revitalized the planet Gystt, once thought to be irreparable after its incineration by the protoss during wartime. Now the zerg wish only to live there in peace and nurture new life. But when Dominion agents—a hard-bitten marine, an unpredictable reaper, an idealistic xenobiologist, a former ghost operative, and an enigmatic protoss researcher—arrive to investigate the planet, they suspect that not all of the zerg are truly dedicated to Zagara’s dream of harmonious paradise. Gystt hides dark secrets, and should they be unleashed, it will mean disaster for the universe.


GenyaArikado 05-01-2016 03:06 PM

Overqueen Zagara. I like

I wonder if these rebel zerg will be queens or something new

ARM3481 05-01-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GenyaArikado (Post 1469549)
Overqueen Zagara. I like

I wonder if these rebel zerg will be queens or something new

It could always be something involving Abathur. Maybe the Swarm not running around conquering more systems to assimilate more species and improve itself cramps his style and threatens to make him obsolete.

Or perhaps some tie-in to the Nova missions' Defenders of Man snagging zerg broods to use for their psi emitter scheme.

Revenant 05-01-2016 03:29 PM

The idea of "environmentally friendly" zerg seems odd but intriguing.

Gromak 05-01-2016 03:40 PM

I don't think I'd like the Zerg becoming hippies.

Malygos 05-01-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by handclaw (Post 1469546)
an idealistic xenobiologist, a former ghost operative, and an enigmatic protoss researcher

Project Blackstone reunion? Golly, dis gon be gud.

Drusus 05-01-2016 05:48 PM

Isn't that basically the plot of Star Wars: Legacy?

Mutterscrawl 05-01-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Drusus (Post 1469598)
Star Wars: Legacy?

Huh?


Also, does the zerg part of that symbol seem very...

Plant-y?

GenyaArikado 05-01-2016 09:43 PM

i wonder if the enviroment friendly zerg was one of the primal zerg discussed during HotS developement

Omacron 05-01-2016 09:58 PM

Shit, Zahn is writing for Blizzard? Rob Simpson must be working his magic.

Mutterscrawl 05-01-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ARM3481 (Post 1469552)
It could always be something involving Abathur. Maybe the Swarm not running around conquering more systems to assimilate more species and improve itself cramps his style and threatens to make him obsolete.

Or perhaps some tie-in to the Nova missions' Defenders of Man snagging zerg broods to use for their psi emitter scheme.


I dunno, Abathur said Kerrigan's revenge quest was making the swarm the strongest swarm despite not being explicitly about perfection, because for the swarm, the goal is doing whatever the swarm's leader wants, as well as possible.

So if Zagara decides she wants to make the Zerg into Druids, Abathur seems like he'd go about making the best damn zerg gardeners possible.

Honestly Zagara deciding she wants the swarm to be peaceful is really fucking weird and out of nowhere for me though.

A new character or the defenders of man seems more likely based on current lore.

But they said they wanted abathur to be a villain back in the old HotS development so maybe they decided to make him a villain again and they'll change his characterization :(

Makes me sad, I like his perfectionism not being fixed to any one 'political' ideology and more linked to whoever runs the swarm.

Drusus 05-02-2016 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1469654)
Huh?

Chaotic Evil race invade the galaxy and bring it to the brink.
Once defeated, it turns out there's a 'good' faction who just want to live in peace.
Want to prove it by terraforming the planets they've corrupted.
The Lawful Good ruler is distrustful but is willing to roll with it.
Numerous factions - including the Lawful Neutrals - are highly against it due to lack of trust of a race who've otherwise proven nothing but murderous.
Then it goes tits up from there.

Omacron 05-02-2016 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1469682)
I dunno, Abathur said Kerrigan's revenge quest was making the swarm the strongest swarm despite not being explicitly about perfection, because for the swarm, the goal is doing whatever the swarm's leader wants, as well as possible.

So if Zagara decides she wants to make the Zerg into Druids, Abathur seems like he'd go about making the best damn zerg gardeners possible.

Honestly Zagara deciding she wants the swarm to be peaceful is really fucking weird and out of nowhere for me though.

A new character or the defenders of man seems more likely based on current lore.

But they said they wanted abathur to be a villain back in the old HotS development so maybe they decided to make him a villain again and they'll change his characterization :(

Makes me sad, I like his perfectionism not being fixed to any one 'political' ideology and more linked to whoever runs the swarm.

Depends on what "perfection" is. Kerrigan wanted the swarm to kill her enemies, so it was turned into the perfect sword. In peace time, you want to build and revitalize new planets, so you need, say, a shovel. A sword is a pretty imperfect shovel.

Mutterscrawl 05-02-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Drusus (Post 1469755)
Chaotic Evil race invade the galaxy and bring it to the brink.
Once defeated, it turns out there's a 'good' faction who just want to live in peace.
Want to prove it by terraforming the planets they've corrupted.
The Lawful Good ruler is distrustful but is willing to roll with it.
Numerous factions - including the Lawful Neutrals - are highly against it due to lack of trust of a race who've otherwise proven nothing but murderous.
Then it goes tits up from there.

Oh that stuff with the Yuuzhan Vong?

GenyaArikado 05-02-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1469682)
Honestly Zagara deciding she wants the swarm to be peaceful is really fucking weird and out of nowhere for me though.

Vision.

Genesis 05-03-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1469682)
I dunno, Abathur said Kerrigan's revenge quest was making the swarm the strongest swarm despite not being explicitly about perfection, because for the swarm, the goal is doing whatever the swarm's leader wants, as well as possible.

So if Zagara decides she wants to make the Zerg into Druids, Abathur seems like he'd go about making the best damn zerg gardeners possible.

Honestly Zagara deciding she wants the swarm to be peaceful is really fucking weird and out of nowhere for me though.

A new character or the defenders of man seems more likely based on current lore.

But they said they wanted abathur to be a villain back in the old HotS development so maybe they decided to make him a villain again and they'll change his characterization :(

Makes me sad, I like his perfectionism not being fixed to any one 'political' ideology and more linked to whoever runs the swarm.

And what the fuck is Stukov doing?

Mutterscrawl 06-03-2016 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 1470175)
And what the fuck is Stukov doing?

Necro.

No idea what Stukov is up to, would be interesting to find out if he's organizing infested terrans and helping them de-crazy.

Also pondering what the Purifiers are up to.

Colarion and Fenix/Tahondar (What do we call him now?)

Genesis 06-06-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1480608)
Necro.

No idea what Stukov is up to, would be interesting to find out if he's organizing infested terrans and helping them de-crazy.

Yeah, I was not sure what his status in Kerrigan's Zerg was.

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Also pondering what the Purifiers are up to.

Colarion and Fenix/Tahondar (What do we call him now?)
That would also be interesting. That and getting a percentage of Tal'darim who joined the Daelaam.

C9H20 07-14-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gromak (Post 1469564)
I don't think I'd like the Zerg becoming hippies.

I think it's actually the opposite. Zagara's brood may want to try a more cooperative approach, but even that I doubt given what we've seen of her, but those who don't want that? I bet those will be very similar to the original Overmind (and I mean before the Amon retcon nonsense), bent on perfecting themselves and overtaking everyone else.
I do wonder who those "radicals" may be. Given that early drafts of SC2 had Kerrigan abolish the hivemind and set the zerg free coupled with how Kerrigan taught Zagara the value of thinking ahead and of initiative my best guess is Zagara herself experiments with free zerg. Though it could also be simply other queens with other ideas, primal zerg messing things up or even a mix of things.

I think this might be the setup to a new SC RTS, Blizz did mention their RTS squad is basically out of stuff to do. They briefly mentioned a possibility of a WC RTS but that seems to have gone nowhere.

PS. And yeah seems project Blackstone unlike WC RTS is going somewhere. I hope everyone is still pissed at Winlaleah :P

HlaaluStyle 07-18-2016 12:19 PM

Eh, it's hard for me to see eco-conscious zerg not going the same route as peaceful shamanistic orcs. It'll last until Blizzard needs a bad guy and can't pick one from its existing roster. Then the zerg will revert back to the hungering swarm, while the talking heads insist that the zerg are actually a peaceful nature-loving culture.

Then it'll end in a huge mess where the bad zerg (who appeared to be the overwhelming majority) are defeated, and they revert back to good, but never actually pay a real price.

One of the recurring problems in Warcraft was Blizzard's seeming inability to decide what the orcs actually were. The words "Know Thyself" were displayed on the route to the Oracle of Delphi. Sadly, Blizzard did not listen to this advice when it came to the orcs.

Hopefully they've learned their lesson.

GenyaArikado 07-19-2016 11:56 AM

well the zerg still work kinda on a hivemind and breed ridiculously quick so it's different.

Mutterscrawl 11-09-2016 10:51 AM

Bought the book today

Will post summary as I go

Insane Guy of Doom 11-09-2016 11:03 AM

Bought it at Blizzcon and read it on the plane ride home, but I won't steal Mutterscrawl's thunder (and I didn't post anything since no one was using the Starcraft board so I didn't think anyone cared). I will say its definitely going to be a love it or hate it reaction here, much like LotV's ending (though to not nearly the same degree).

Mutterscrawl 11-09-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Insane Guy of Doom (Post 1533838)
Bought it at Blizzcon and read it on the plane ride home, but I won't steal Mutterscrawl's thunder (and I didn't post anything since no one was using the Starcraft board so I didn't think anyone cared). I will say its definitely going to be a love it or hate it reaction here, much like LotV's ending (though to not nearly the same degree).

Thats not a good sign, but thanks

GenyaArikado 11-09-2016 11:05 AM

The only thunder Sky has is getting silenced by a blue and throwing a tantrum afterwards. So by all means, please post a synopsis darling :3

Mutterscrawl 11-09-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GenyaArikado (Post 1533842)
The only thunder Sky has is getting silenced by a blue and throwing a tantrum afterwards. So by all means, please post a synopsis darling :3

:rolleyes: You have a warped view of my fame and prophetic departure from WoWs story and general forums Genya, I'd hoped at least you knew how to tell time


Anyway, story starts by introducing minor characters, six years since the war with Amon

Whist: A marine
Dizz: A reaper
Ulavu: an outcast protoss academic at the ghost academy
Tanya: a pyrokinetic ghost

Whist and Dizz meet on a roof by chance, Whist is reminiscing abd drinking to the memory of dead friends, Dizz joins him and remarks on how new reapers aren't all ubercriminals like the original set he was part of

Elsewhere:
Tanya contemplates her resignation from the ghosy program having been accepted, but then realizes Ulavu wandered out to a bar and nearly got jumped by some drunks, Tanya found him and diffused the situation but they both thought it odd one of the drunks knew she was a ghost despite not having identified as one

Notes: Whist is a little concerned about what Dizz did to become a reaper since he seems so friendly, he internally guesses conman or serial murderer but doesn't want to ask without his gun on him, though Dizz offers to tell him over drinks

The new reapers have full on jetpacks, for flight not just jumps, the old groups are still kept on so dominion forces have a mix

Tanyas pyrokinesis is rare, her other psi abilities are a modest 5.1 on the terran scale, she feels a mix of guilt and relief at having been held in reserve so long all the wars are over, she has an implant to help keep her temper in check so she doesn't "turn people into roman candles"
Ulavu is an outcast but its not clear why

Update:

Valerian is in talks with Umoja to build a defense base in their territory and get biotech to grow more food for dominion since its still recovering, Umoja is woried there are still people in Valerians gov that want to Annex Umoja like arcturus wanted to

GenyaArikado 11-09-2016 02:37 PM

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my fame
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcqkh1sKx71r486pj.gif


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prophetic departure
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcqkh1sKx71r486pj.gif

Just finish it fast and write the synopsis boytoy

Omacron 11-09-2016 04:35 PM

... why would a Protoss be walking out of a bar? They have no mouths so they cannot drink.

Insane Guy of Doom 11-09-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 1534038)
... why would a Protoss be walking out of a bar? They have no mouths so they cannot drink.

He went there because he wanted to talk to the people inside for spoiler-y reasons.

Mutterscrawl 11-09-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 1534038)
... why would a Protoss be walking out of a bar? They have no mouths so they cannot drink.

He went out of ghost compound to the bar, ostensibly a place picked at random, to observe humans

Also, is Genya flirting with me? :raisedbro

Edit:
Valerians sitdown with Umoja is interrupted by a single Leviathan showing up, the terrans are concerned at first but it has a zerg messenger named Mukav that asks Artanis for help in protecting the zerg from the protoss, and that Zagara wants peace with everyone, Valerian and Matt Horner try to get more out of it but Mukav seems to have limited responses, other than the fact that Artanis and Zagara are at Gystt, a planet the protoss glassed around the same time as chau saura, they can't get more out of Mukav

Valerrian has Hyperion prepped and personnel from the surface loaded and heads off to investigate

Mutterscrawl 11-09-2016 09:40 PM

With the minor character crew safely aboard Hyperion Valerian arrives at Gystt and he notes that the protoss were supposed to have glassed the entire planet, but it's covered in fantastic alien jungle greenery.

Artanis is nearby in a Mothership, with a pair of carriers, three void rays and a few other ships, they meet to try and figure out wtf is going on.

Apparently the Protoss left a pair of spy satellites in orbit after they glassed the place way back when, they'd only been configured to pick up large groups of zerg though so they didn't pick up anything until just recently when they were both simultaneously destroyed, prompting him to show up. He thinks Zagara was up to something, Valerian thinks she just did it to get him to come. (Valerian also makes a comment to the effect of "How the fuck did you miss them regrow the planet?)


They call up Zagara and she says the zerg have changed, and rejuvenated Gystt, it's not overt but the reference to Kerrigan ascending to Xel'naga and giving them the ability to choose whether they want to continue their quest for perfection on a path of destruction or use their skills to nurture life is faintly religious.

Zagara asserts the zerg want peace, Artanis and Valerian are understandably skeptical at the sudden change in the zerg. They ask what the other broodmothers think about this since they know some zerg have their own sapience and will and Zagara says "All the broodmothers of note are mine to command. The others will submit."

Valerian muses on the disconnect between choice and Zagara having total control.

Zagara invites any 'tests' the Protoss or terrans have for her, and invites Artanis and Valerian down to a structure she built for meeting them. It's a kind of sterilized/inorganic zerg hatchery.

Valerian and Artanis both think it's probably a trap but Valerian is interested in at least checking it out and notes that between the Hyperion and the Protoss ships they could kill Zagara if she tries to betray them.

Zagara notes that her vision of the Swarm is different from the Overmind and Kerrigans, and has 'wonders that will benefit all of us', noting she could help regrow other planets like they did Gystt. Valerian is interested in the regrowth helping him feed the Dominion. Artanis is not interested given the memory of Aiur's infestation is still fresh, Zagara counters the genetic work could be planned by the zerg and the protoss or terrans could administer it themselves, with no need for the zerg to actually go to the planets if they're worried about that.

Matt's gut distrusts Zagara, but he figures he could get Valerian out if he had to evacuate him suddenly if the invitation turns out to be a trap.

Valerian says he'll go but with the condition that a survey team be allowed down to the surface. Zagara says they're free to go wherever, she has nothing to hide.

Valerian agrees to head down and persuades Artanis to go with him.

Scene shift to Dr. Erin Wyland and Talise Cogan and Colonel Cruikshank, in a meeting room on the Hyperion. Wyland found three spots the plantlife on the planet seems to radiate from, she shows Valerian and he decides to send her down instead of Cogan, who agrees since Wyland's better with plantlife. Erin has the hots for Valerian.

Valerian then goes to see Ulavu and Tanya, he asks them to go but notes he can't technically order Tanya to do anything since her resignation processed while she was onboard, she agrees to go anyway out of a desire to feel useful.


Whist, Tanya, Erin, Ulavu and Dizz go down to the surface while Valerian takes a protoss shuttle with Artanis and a set of 4 high and 4 dark templar as bodyguards.



A few minor notes: Mukav is a queen and was talking verbally, no telepathy. (it also repeated the message so much Valerian thought it was a looping video at first), there's also a nice little reference that Mukav's transmission was using UED valkyrie protocols (not the tech, but they were mimicking it to talk to the terrans).

Tanya notes under Mengsk ghosts couldn't leave the program but under Valerian they could, and that Valerian's also toned down the 'brain panning' and resoccing of Dominion soldiers.

Zagara actually tries to smile and make a joke about how the Zerg are in more harmony than terrans or protoss, Valerian isn't sure if it's a joke or if she's just being sarcastic and condescending though.

Cruikshank is coordinating the survey team with Matt, Whist notes that Ulavu has his nerve cords cut and that all protoss are doing that now. He's an observant guy, he notes this and Artanis's bodyguards mean the protoss are more unified. He thinks that's nice and all but is also a bit glum that it means if the protoss and terrans ever fight again the protoss will be tougher. He also feels having cut nerve cords also makes it harder to tell protoss apart since they have no faces.

Revenant 11-09-2016 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 1534038)
... why would a Protoss be walking out of a bar? They have no mouths so they cannot drink.

They could drink a fine mist of it through their hands?

Mutterscrawl 11-10-2016 08:17 AM

Going into a bit less detail from here on, people can ask questions if they need clarification or anything:

Valerian and Artanis talk about Ulavu, Valerian hopes that him being sheltered by the Dominion didn't cause the antipathy that made the protoss not take him back, Artanis says it's not a factor and kinda brushes the issue aside.

The survey team is hooked up with an experimental new 'psi block' gizmo. Essentially a mini psi disruptor in Whist and Dizz's gear that's supposed to make it harder for zerg to coordinate in an area around them. Field test since there have been no zerg to fight past six years.

Matt questions Valerian on whether it's a good idea to send Tanya, not wanting her to get captured and have the zerg start making prokinetic strains. Valerian notes that if the Zerg betray them all and attack that the surface can be wiped stopping them from doing anything with Tanya's genes. Matt realizes that she's kinda bait to test if Zagara's genuine or not and says that's something Arcturus would've done, Valerian denies it and says it's different.

Valerian and Artanis head down, check the air and a dozen other things before finally entering the chamber, no roaches or banelings or anything pop out to murder them, much to their surprise. Zagara and Abathur appear to begin the talks.

Erin is stuffed into a combat suit ala a marine or medic for her protection, it's her first time outside anything other than an SCV so she's clumsy. As they begin walking to the first hill where plantlife radiated from they stumble into a hydralisk which just ignores them and slithers away, but Erin had fallen over when they saw the hydralisk and notices an odd sound 'like machinery or singing' under the ground coming from the direction of the hill they're going to, Ulavu says it's not psionic though.

The psi blocks seem to work (Whist attributes this to the hydralisk leaving and doesn't much trust Zagara) but it also cuts off longrange communications. And they start heading for the hill

Back to Artanis, Valerian and Zagara. The unified zerg are noted to have been responsible for the slaughter of terrans and protoss and devastation of planets, Zagara compares her new reign to Valerian vs. Arcturus or Artanis vs. Conclave. Says the Queen of Blades
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"She who was once terran, then zerg, and now xel'naga has through her mercy and grace-"
Artanis cuts her off and walks off to analyze some of the zerg plants, Valerian notes he seems angry and goes after him, asks him what's bugging him.

Artanis notes that Valerian would consider it a 'small and foolish thing', Valerian says Artanis runs the protoss so it can't be that small or foolish, Artanis recaps protoss history with Amon factored in, there's hints he's worried about another aeon of strie if the protoss infight, but the majority of it is about how Kerrigan got an honor that was denied the protoss, to become xel'naga, and now there are xel'naga genes in the zerg plants. Valerian is surprised by this and asks how he can tell. "Just as many terran flora and fauna echo numbers of the Fibonacci series, so, too, does the xel'naga essence manifest itself in numbers of Cuccodujo series." the plants have been altered with xel'naga genes. Valerian asks for a copy of the numbers and says they'll have to ask Zagara about it. Artanis thinks she was hiding things, Valerian thinks she just hadn't had a chance to mention it.

The survey team runs into a gaggle of zerg who attack them, after killing them, Ulavu notes it's possible they ran afoul of a 'balance crossing', a line where two zerg queens or broods brush against each other and so the zerg there act more feral. It's not an issue on battlefields but on planets where not all zerg are monitored all the time it's apparently a thing protoss noticed but terrans never did. Horner and Cruikshank were monitoring from orbit and call Valerian who adds it to the list of things to bring up with Zagara.

Abathur talks when they bring up the xelnaga essence in the plants, Zagara explains Abathur's the only evolution master ever in the swarm, Artanis and Valerian realize this makes him responsible for all the rapid mutations they've seen in the zerg. (Valerian has kind of a "Oh THIS fucker" thinking back to all the times the Dominion would exploit a zerg weakness and they'd mutate in days to have it fixed). Zagara notes he's not responsible for what he did under Overmind, Kerrigan, or her. Responsibility for whatever Abathur does rests with whoever's in charge of the swarm.

Valerian brings up the attack on the survey team, Zagara seems surprised, contacts the brodmothers, says the broodmothers were 'more than merely sloppy', and were disciplined to not allow failure again.

They talk more about Abathur having modified Zagara when kerrigan was around, and if she had Xel'naga essence. She says no, since it wasn't necessary to lead the swarm.


Back to Survey team. The hill is some kinda former lava bubble the zerg repurposed, its got some kinda weird tree palisade set up where the trees are tough to move from outside but easy to push from inside, as Dizz notes by zipping around them. They rig up a few grenades to get inside the tree palisade and dome, there's an odd, constant, notably psionic buzzing inside the domes, and suddenly zerg are trying to get inside and attack them. Survey team defends itself but Tanya blacks out as the buzzing intensifies and a bunch of weird looking zerg, similar to hydralisks but smaller than zerglings and with
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'triple lines of bright red spots starting between their eyes and running all the way up their skulls and down the centers of their backs."
The mental buzzing is bad enough that its blurring whists vision and he figures they're all going to die... when Ulavu jumps up, has a pair of concealed dark templar blades pop out, and kills the remaining zerg, then talks whist into helping him stay concealed to avoid hurting Tanya's feelings. He feels bad about lying to her. Whist asks wtf a dark templar is pretending to be a researcher for, Ulavu says it's because the protoss aren't sure how much they can trust terrans so he's studying them. Whist comments that the terrans are pretty sick of war, and agrees to stay quiet for now because they don't have time for drama on the mission but says he'd better still help if another fight happens, they use a grenade to hide the warp-blade wounds on the zerg. Ulavu notes he thinks the buzzing from the newly dubbed "Psyolisks" as Erin callls them, as targetting Tanya since she was the biggest threat since she's a ghost, covertly adds that next fight it'll probably be him unless the psiblock stopped them from talking, atm no one but Whist knows he's a dark templar since his warp blades folded up to be concealed again.

Tanya wakes up, there's still some buzzing so they know there's more psyolisks somewhere.

GenyaArikado 11-10-2016 10:59 AM

No mention of Izsha?

I love how Zagara is basically a victorian styled queen

Edit: I already read the end. Well his destiny was clear from the moment of his reveal

Mutterscrawl 11-10-2016 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GenyaArikado (Post 1534371)
No mention of Izsha?

I love how Zagara is basically a victorian styled queen

Edit: The Betrayer is Abathur. For the reasons you imagine. How surprising right?

None.

How so?

Yeah, sad.

ANYWAY continuing for the others, but further abreviated.

The Survey team makes it into a chamber with a bunch of zerglings and Psykolisks and pods. They note that the pods are on one side and the rest of the zerg are against another wall, the team guesses this is because they don't want the pods to get damaged by accident in fighting, they check the pods, which have smaller zerg inside with the same pattern, it's hard to make out their exact shape in the pods though.

The Psykolisks and other zerg attack, the team is able to take them out thanks to Tanya breaking out her pyrokinesis. They decide to blow up the pods because they figure they're growing the Psykolisks and psionic zerg would be super dangerous if they're mass produced.

Back at the conference, Zagara and Abathur are outraged at the Terrans killing the "Adostra" claiming they're harmless, and dreaming, they deny the existence of the psykolisks, saying that none of the Adostra have the abilities Valerian is describing. Artanis thinks Zagara's full of shit, and leaves apparently starting preparations to glass the planet, Valerian stays wanting to get to the bottom of things.

Zagara says Abathur made the Adostra and the Adostra made the plants, the Adostra were suggested by Xel'naga-Kerrigan, Abathur used Xel'naga essence strands from Ulnar plus a species kerrigan found that was nonviolent and not fully sentient.

The Adostra are basically starcraft green dragons / druids, their dreams nurture plantlife. This also implies the Adostra are not really zerg.

Valerian, Zagara, and Abathur try to figure out what attacked the survey team if Zag and Aba both say they didn't make anything like the psykolisks. Abathur says the terrans are lying, things break down, Valerian asks the survey team to get some psykolisk remains to analyze / use as proof.

Survey team goes in, notices some of the pods they'd burned are empty, which is weird.

Valerian tells them to go to another mound to get fresh samples since the burnt ones were no good.

The protoss were already in process of having his dudes check the second mound when their small force got jumped, some other terrans were sent to check the mound and helped what was left of the protoss who were damn near shredded by the psykolisks. The protoss had a disruptor set off by Cruikshank with his warhound and blow the place up as the psykolisks started trying to move a pod out of the place.

Leaves just third mound which the survey team is heading to.

Valerian and Zagara are still talking, Zagara says the murder of the Adostra was a crime against the universe, and that she can't make more without Xel'naga strands since the Adostra can't breed yet but Abathur thinks they might eventually.

Valerian ponders whether the psykolisks themselves might be causing problems without Abathur or Zagara knowing, among other things, and really wants the survey team to get him answers.

Back at the team though dropship has them en route to the third mound, Tanya is sad because she figured out all on her own that Ulavu is a dark templar and feels their friendship was a lie, Erin drops by though and notes that aside from the red dot pattern the Adostra don't look like the psykolisks, much less like zerg, and there were way more psykolisks than empty pods, so something is weird.

Tanya isn't in much of a mood to listen but learns from Erin Ulavu had some minor injuries and so she goes to confront him in Medbay, he apologizes for hiding his secret stuff from her, mentions he was sent to find a terran telekinetic, she mentions there were two in the program, he says he blew them off to hang out with her because they're both assholes and wouldn't have been friends with both him AND her. Understandably this put him on the outs with the rest of the protoss. He was at the bar to see if any other terrans had telekinetic ability that weren't ghosts, specifically he'd heard a telekinetic that died on chau saura had family and might have passed on his skills.

Whist drops in before they can talk further and asks how Erin is alive, when the zerg and psykolisks had them pushed so hard in the pod room, they decide to grab her and Dizz and all talk at once.

Valerian decides to use a psi emitter to lure zerg away from third mound to try and make things safer for survey team.

GenyaArikado 11-11-2016 03:58 AM

They arent implied to not be zerg. Its outright stated and its one of the reasons Abathur dislikes them, he never liked competition

Also the flora the Adostra dream is so nutrient rich the zergs can feed with it so they dont need creep

Honestly i dont consider Abathur's betrayal bad or bad handled since it was perfectly in character with what was stablished in Hot5 about him and its obvious for most non-zerg characters that it was him all along, simply they couldnt sure since they didnt have proof

Zagara behaves like a zerg version of Civ6 Queen Victoria. She only likes the royal we (maybe, idr if she uses it)

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Between pyrokinetic ghosts, flying reapers, "green" zerg and khala-less protoss, I can tell SC3 or an hypothetical SC2 "reboot" xpack is going to be quite interesting

Gromak 11-11-2016 07:18 AM

So Abathur's a bad guy, but what happens to him?

Mutterscrawl 11-11-2016 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gromak (Post 1534908)
So Abathur's a bad guy, but what happens to him?

Zagara drags him back to Gystt after beating the shit out of him, saying the Zerg can't survive without an evolution master.

I am not a fan of the plot :P

Gromak 11-11-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutterscrawl (Post 1534911)
Zagara drags him back to Gystt after beating the shit out of him, saying the Zerg can't survive without an evolution master.

I am not a fan of the plot :P

So he survives by having ultimate job security. Noice.

Mutterscrawl 11-11-2016 07:54 AM

Wrapping up Summary.

A bunch of mutalisks grap the dropship as they're going towards the psi emitter, Valerian and Matt realize they'll just get dragged into the mass of swarm around the emitter if it keeps up, and can't shut off the emitter because of the psykolisks.

Valerian tries to message zagara but can't get to her, no one's answering the calls, so he and Matt use a small nuke on the emitter.

The dropship gets loose of the mutalisks but then ends up crash landing.

Cruikshank and some protoss set up a defensive line at a chokepoint to keep the zerg from returning to the third mound.

The survey team gets inside the mound after realizing the zerg had tried leaving Erin alive in the prior skirmishes to have someone try and leak the psykolisks existence once the rest of the team was killed, and get the terrans/protoss to fight the zerg again.

Everyone figures it must be Abathur since there's very few high ranking zerg.

Survey team gets bottled inside the third mound and works on defending itself, Ulavu reveals this new protoss weapon, it's basically like a double-sided light-saber that you throw and it spins and cuts down waves of zerg, it's why they wanted a terran telekinetic to continue working with it. Apparently protoss telekinetics and terran telekinetics are different?

Ulavu also tries talking to the Adostra to have them 'wither' or kill the psykolisks but their thoughts are so dang alien he can't get much out of them.

Zagara has a devourer barf a psykolisk body at Valerian and Artanis's ships, so they can autopsy it and figure out wtf the things are.

Erin uses a flamethrower on masses of zerg trying to murder them at mound three but can't get clear, thanks to Ulavu and the others though she gets out alive but unconscious with second degree burns. The protoss help evac her manually since the psykolisks are fucking with the warp prisms.

Zagara then shows up and brings the zerg attacking them back under control and after a chat with Valerian they go to her leviathan.

Abathur and mukav are there, Mukav translates zerg thought-speach between them to the rest of the team.

Abathur doesn't feel the zerg can continue to be unique and evolve and chase perfection if they don't fight and beat the Terrans and Protoss, feels Zagara and her promise to Kerrigan not to assimilate the Adostra is foolish and wrong, feels the Adostra are abominations. Zerg name for the psykolisks is Chitha apparently.

Abathur tries to swarm them all with Psyolisks, big fight ensues, mukav on Abathur's side, and Tanya burns out her ghost implant limiter so she can use her pyrokinesis to fry them all, she collapses and wakes up to find they won, Abathur got dragged back by Zagara but is left alive, Valerian and Artanis work out a treaty or agreement of some sort with Zagara.

Apparently the survey team loses their fucking minds because they agree to keep Ulavu being a spy and dark templar a secret since he's leaving to go back to the protoss and Tanya agrees to help them find a trustworthy terran telekinetic.


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