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Yaskaleh 04-19-2015 10:22 PM

Many of Israel's leaders were known war criminals and terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte
Folke Bernadotte were assigned by the UN to broker truce between the immigrant jews and the arabs but was assassinated for it by a sionist group. These would later reach leading positions in Israel.

Ragnahar 04-19-2015 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaskaleh (Post 1294118)
Many of Israel's leaders were known war criminals and terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte
Folke Bernadotte were assigned by the UN to broker truce between the immigrant jews and the arabs but was assassinated for it by a sionist group. These would later reach leading positions in Israel.

http://images.rtsguru.com/articles/i...pup/Sion_4.jpg

Taintedmage 04-20-2015 01:43 AM

So, before I go to bed, I'd figure I'd mention a documentary on British Islam.
Whether you want to say it's biased or not is up to you, it was on the BBC but I found it mildly interesting.


g'night.

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragnahar (Post 1294125)

Meh, blame it on swedish spelling, we write it as sionism. We're not keen on using Z.

Ragnahar 04-20-2015 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaskaleh (Post 1294188)
Meh, blame it on swedish spelling, we write it as sionism. We're not keen on using Z.

I actually do remember that, but I couldn't pass up the chance.

Omacron 04-20-2015 02:13 AM

Bork bork bork

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 1294193)
Bork bork bork


Taintedmage 04-20-2015 08:38 AM

Welp, looks like shit is going down in Yemen.

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 02:03 PM

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...ps-to-ukraine/

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Political Murders in Kiev, US Troops to Ukraine
written by ron paul
sunday april 19, 2015
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Last week two prominent Ukrainian opposition figures were gunned down in broad daylight. They join as many as ten others who have been killed or committed suicide under suspicious circumstances just this year. These individuals have one important thing in common: they were either part of or friendly with the Yanukovych government, which a US-backed coup overthrew last year. They include members of the Ukrainian parliament and former chief editors of major opposition newspapers.

While some journalists here in the US have started to notice the strange series of opposition killings in Ukraine, the US government has yet to say a word.

Compare this to the US reaction when a single opposition figure was killed in Russia earlier this year. Boris Nemtsov was a member of a minor political party that was not even represented in the Russian parliament. Nevertheless the US government immediately demanded that Russia conduct a thorough investigation of his murder, suggesting the killers had a political motive.

As news of the Russian killing broke, Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Ed Royce (R-CA) did not wait for evidence to blame the killing on Russian president Vladimir Putin. On the very day of Nemtsov’s murder, Royce told the US media that, “this shocking murder is the latest assault on those who dare to oppose the Putin regime.”

Neither Royce, nor Secretary of State John Kerry, nor President Obama, nor any US government figure has said a word about the series of apparently political murders in Ukraine.

On the contrary, instead of questioning the state of democracy in what looks like a lawless Ukraine, the Administration is sending in the US military to help train Ukrainian troops!

Last week, just as the two political murders were taking place, the US 173rd Airborne Brigade landed in Ukraine to begin training Ukrainian national guard forces – and to leave behind some useful military equipment. Though the civil unrest continues in Ukraine, the US military is assisting one side in the conflict – even as the US slaps sanctions on Russia over accusations it is helping out the other side!

As the ceasefire continues to hold, though shakily, what kind of message does it send to the US-backed government in Kiev to have US troops arrive with training and equipment and an authorization to gift Kiev with some $350 million in weapons? Might they not take this as a green light to begin new hostilities against the breakaway regions in the east?

The Obama administration is so inconsistent in its foreign policy. In some places, particularly Cuba and Iran, the administration is pursuing a policy that looks to diplomacy and compromise to help improve decades of bad relations. In these two cases the administration realizes that the path of confrontation has led nowhere. When the president announced his desire to see the end of Cuba sanctions, he stated very correctly that, "…we are ending a policy that was long past its expiration date. When what you’re doing doesn’t work for fifty years, it’s time to try something new.”

So while Obama is correctly talking about sanctions relief for Iran and Cuba, he is adding more sanctions on Russia, backing Saudi Arabia’s brutal attack on Yemen, and pushing ever harder for regime change in Syria. Does he really believe the rest of the world does not see these double standards? A wise consistency of non-interventionism in all foreign affairs would be the correct course for this and future US administrations. Let us hope they will eventually follow Obama’s observation that, “it’s time to try something new.”

Ragnahar 04-20-2015 02:15 PM

Quoting Ron Paul - the fastest way into the panties of "edgy" college chicks.

Noitora 04-20-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnahar (Post 1294481)
Quoting Ron Paul - the fastest way into the panties of "edgy" college chicks.

Eh.

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnahar (Post 1294481)
Quoting Ron Paul - the fastest way into the panties of "edgy" college chicks.

I do consider him to be the most morally sound, dependable, honourable, trustworthy and uncorrupt politician in all of the US. He's probably the only US politician I like and I am not a libertarian.

Ragnahar 04-20-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaskaleh (Post 1294488)
I do consider him to be the most morally sound, dependable, honourable, trustworthy and uncorrupt politician in all of the US. He's probably the only US politician I like and I am not a libertarian.

It's easy to take a moral stance when none of your decisions effect the reality of a corrupt and complicated world.

PajamaSalad 04-20-2015 02:44 PM

Ron Paul being so awful even makes me suspicious of Rand Paul. I don't like crazy conspiracies.

Noitora 04-20-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pajamasalad (Post 1294496)
Ron Paul being so awful even makes me suspicious of Rand Paul. I don't like crazy conspiracies.

No.

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnahar (Post 1294491)
It's easy to take a moral stance when none of your decisions effect the reality of a corrupt and complicated world.

He is too good of a man for the vile and corrupt den of villainy and decadence that is politics.

I think I understand the ananzi thing a bit better now. Burn all politicians.

PajamaSalad 04-20-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Noitora (Post 1294500)
No.

It is true though. Ron Paul is legitimately extreme. He is a fringe candidate. Just because someone sticks it to the man doesn't make them a hero.

Omacron 04-20-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaskaleh (Post 1294488)
I do consider him to be the most morally sound, dependable, honourable, trustworthy and uncorrupt politician in all of the US. He's probably the only US politician I like and I am not a libertarian.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-59yKr3QBM...8edd17b063.jpg

Yaskaleh 04-20-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 1294514)

Your taste in politicians fit you well.

PajamaSalad 04-20-2015 03:20 PM

The US is sending Teddy Roosevelt to Yemen.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...=todayinmil.sm

Ragnahar 04-20-2015 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pajamasalad (Post 1294519)
The US is sending Teddy Roosevelt to Yemen.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...=todayinmil.sm

Now watch the power of one U.S. carrier, and the system of ships designed to protect it.

PajamaSalad 04-20-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragnahar (Post 1294525)
Now watch the power of one U.S. carrier, and the system of ships designed to protect it.

A global force for good.

Genesis 04-20-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pajamasalad (Post 1294519)
The US is sending Teddy Roosevelt to Yemen.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...=todayinmil.sm

The situation is a complete mess, but I'm not sure how the US intervening actually helps this situation.

PajamaSalad 04-20-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 1294528)
The situation is a complete mess, but I'm not sure how the US intervening actually helps this situation.

You don't believe I can save the world. :(

Genesis 04-20-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pajamasalad (Post 1294529)
You don't believe I can save the world. :(

You're right. I don't. This situation is far more complicated than sheer US military force. The US is allied with Saudi Arabia who supports the Sunni Yemen government. Iran naturally supports the Shiite Houthi rebels. The Houthi rebels are also fighting the Sunni terrorist organization of Al Qaeda, who are also in Yemen. The US denying the Houthi rebels the Iranian weapons helps Al Qaeda.


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