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Apophis 09-08-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuber8900 (Post 340504)
Well Europeans would certainly rejoice.

Which is why I am against this. Because Fuck Europeans.

What's Europe ever done to you? :kawaii:

Leviathon 09-08-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophis (Post 340664)
What's Europe ever done to you? :kawaii:

Psh every problem in the world today can eventually be linked to Europe. :p

Bolvar 09-08-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leviathon (Post 340728)
Psh every problem in the world today can eventually be linked to Europe. :p

Yeah, but The Final Countdown is a pretty epic rock ballad.

Exxile87 09-08-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 340732)
Yeah, but The Final Countdown is a pretty epic rock ballad.

Funny note: Bryan Danielson (Daniel Bryan) used to use that as his entrance music back in Ring of Honor.

Yuber8900 09-08-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Apophis (Post 340664)
What's Europe ever done to you? :kawaii:

Hey! They started it!

Bolvar 09-08-2011 08:24 PM

When even the AP is calling shenanigans, you know the gig is up.

All the pomp and circumstance of a joint session for a lot of smoke and mirrors and absolutely no substance or tangible value.

Jimmy Carter can die happy. He lived long enough to see a worse one come along.

Cantus 09-08-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 340807)
When even the AP is calling shenanigans, you know the gig is up.

All the pomp and circumstance of a joint session for a lot of smoke and mirrors and absolutely no substance or tangible value.

Jimmy Carter can die happy. He lived long enough to see a worse one come along.

I can say literally the same thing about every candidate on the block. That article isn't saying anything new, just spinning the logic to affect a positive or negative light on the president. Paul, Perry, Hunstman, Romney, none of them have any power over the jobs bills they may produce, but they still produce them. Now if they had said "Obama's bill doesn't add up all the numbers correctly," that's a different story, but instead it's just an obvious fluff piece that started no where and ended nowhere solely for political potshots.

Bolvar 09-08-2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantus (Post 340911)
I can say literally the same thing about every candidate on the block. That article isn't saying anything new, just spinning the logic to affect a positive or negative light on the president. Paul, Perry, Hunstman, Romney, none of them have any power over the jobs bills they may produce, but they still produce them. Now if they had said "Obama's bill doesn't add up all the numbers correctly," that's a different story, but instead it's just an obvious fluff piece that started no where and ended nowhere solely for political potshots.

That's the point.

The mainstream media is turning on Obama. The AP used to be one of his biggest cheerleaders. Hell, earlier someone posted an MSNBC link that was shockingly not deliberately leftist. It's like the little kid finally pointed out that the emperor has no clothes.

Cantus 09-09-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 340913)
That's the point.

The mainstream media is turning on Obama. The AP used to be one of his biggest cheerleaders. Hell, earlier someone posted an MSNBC link that was shockingly not deliberately leftist. It's like the little kid finally pointed out that the emperor has no clothes.

You do know what the AP is, right? It's a newswire, it's not supposed to put out op-eds. This isn't the media turning on Obama, this is just bad media.

And really...have you not seen The Daily Show or Colbert Report? They've been ragging on Obama's failures for years. Any well informed individual has been privy to his fantasies and faults for years. The only difference between then and now is the furor in which over-zealous conservatives/liberals attempt to reinterpret reality to fit their own goals.

Bolvar 09-09-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantus (Post 340922)
You do know what the AP is, right? It's a newswire, it's not supposed to put out op-eds. This isn't the media turning on Obama, this is just bad media.

And really...have you not seen The Daily Show or Colbert Report? They've been ragging on Obama's failures for years. Any well informed individual has been privy to his fantasies and faults for years. The only difference between then and now is the furor in which over-zealous conservatives/liberals attempt to reinterpret reality to fit their own goals.

It's cute how you cling to the delusion that the AP is an unbiased newswire.

You do have a masterful way of dismissing everything I say as mere conservative hysteria. Perhaps you should consider a career as a condescending editorial writer.

Cantus 09-09-2011 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 340925)
It's cute how you cling to the delusion that the AP is an unbiased newswire.

They aren't unbiased, but they don't do op-eds on a daily basis either. That's why they're more trusted than the average media jockey.

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You do have a masterful way of dismissing everything I say as mere conservative hysteria. Perhaps you should consider a career as a condescending editorial writer.
Because you're functioning from an extremely biased state of mind. You take assertions at face value without fact checking, and then refuse to acknowledge when you make a mistake. It's not a new thing either, most of my hyper conservative friends do the same thing. They just aren't willing to open their minds to new ways of thinking and put their feet on the ground to check facts they are given. Liberals too, because they're indoctrinated to believe that there is only one right way. The problem is you're both functioning from a black and white perspective, and everyone else is caught between you two bickering, just trying to go about their days knowing that the whole world is filled with shades of grey.

Saranus 09-09-2011 09:03 AM

Am I the only one who DOESNT want a morally dark, baby murderer congress? I'm tired of all this moral ambiguity in my stuff.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o7XecoLXX1...tory-bro41.jpg

(sorry)

Bolvar 09-09-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saranus (Post 341052)
Am I the only one who DOESNT want a morally dark, baby murderer congress? I'm tired of all this moral ambiguity in my stuff.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o7XecoLXX1...tory-bro41.jpg

(sorry)

Agreed. Congress should outlaw abortion immediately.

Leviathon 09-09-2011 10:58 AM

Yea raped woman should totally be forced to raise a child they didn't want!

Bolvar 09-09-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Leviathon (Post 341121)
Yea raped woman should totally be forced to raise a child they didn't want!

Because it's obviously the child's fault.

Kill the rapist. Leave the baby alone.

Leviathon 09-09-2011 11:11 AM

So a person who may not be able to financially able to handle having a baby, let alone want to be emotionally attached to something someone forced into her, should be forced to handle it or send it off to some orphanage and may very likely have a terrible life anyway. Yea I don't think it's the mothers fault either (unless you want to go down that route too). I mean why should a 14 year old girl who was abducted, got raped, and impregnated who didn't then get murdered be forced with a child? Course I don't really put a partially developed embryo in the same category as a fully developed baby.

But yea I agree, kill the rapist and anyone else who is in prison for the rest of their lives who we know for a fact did the crime they are there for without a shadow of doubt.

Bolvar 09-09-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Leviathon (Post 341127)
So a person who may not be able to financially able to handle having a baby should be forced to handle it or send it off to some orphanage. Yea I don't think it's the mothers fault either (unless you want to go down that route too).

The baby deserves to live. Period.

Wabbajack 09-09-2011 11:25 AM

Up to a certain amount of time has passed there isn't a "baby". The problem is determining that specific moment.

Sonneillon 09-09-2011 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 341131)
The baby deserves to live. Period.

Sweet, then lets raise all the taxes across the board to support these unwanted kids and insure they have great lives. Social Assistance for rape victems! Or better yet, all the right to lifers get forced adotion on them, they have lots of money after all, let them raise kids they dont want.

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Originally Posted by Wabbajack (Post 341135)
Up to a certain amount of time has passed there isn't a "baby". The problem is determining that specific moment.

Its a shitting unsatiable crying machine until its 2.

Leviathon 09-09-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonneillon (Post 341137)
Its a shitting unsatiable crying machine until its 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH62fBLBBWI

Bolvar 09-09-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonneillon (Post 341136)
Sweet, then lets raise all the taxes across the board to support these unwanted kids and insure they have great lives. Social Assistance for rape victems! Or better yet, all the right to lifers get forced adotion on them, they have lots of money after all, let them raise kids they dont want.



Its a shitting unsatiable crying machine until its 2.

Better yet, cut benefits for grown adults who can get a fucking job, and give the infants a chance to become wage earning, tax-paying citizens rather than more mass for the landfill.

Sonneillon 09-09-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolvar (Post 341143)
Better yet, cut benefits for grown adults who can get a fucking job, and give the infants a chance to become wage earning, tax-paying citizens rather than more mass for the landfill.

How about we strap mines to them and send them off to war :D

Bolvar 09-09-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonneillon (Post 341144)
How about we strap mines to them and send them off to war :D

The unemployed adults? Fine by me.

Cantus 09-09-2011 12:14 PM

Fun fact, orphan/adoptee children are more likely to be homeless/destitute than the average non-orphan. So the people you're saying should "get jobs" are more than likely to be the same people you said "must live." Funny how statistics works.

Sonneillon 09-09-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantus (Post 341149)
Fun fact, orphan/adoptee children are more likely to be homeless/destitute than the average non-orphan. So the people you're saying should "get jobs" are more than likely to be the same people you said "must live." Funny how statistics works.

Not to mention its not so easy to just "Get a job" these days. This isn't exactly the 50s


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