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Vil'rexin 12-06-2010 02:04 PM

Ah fair enough, she's not exactly my cup of tea but I suppose I can see why people do support her. I'm not the biggest fan of athletes and music stars who butt their heads into political and social issues because I honestly don't think it is their place to do so. Not saying they can't have an opinion but it's quite hard to take some of them seriously such as Kanye West accusing of George W. Bush not helping people in New Orleans fast enough because they are black :rolleyes:

jjstraka 12-06-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasarax (Post 251152)
Ah fair enough, she's not exactly my cup of tea but I suppose I can see why people do support her. I'm not the biggest fan of athletes and music stars who butt their heads into political and social issues because I honestly don't think it is their place to do so. Not saying they can't have an opinion but it's quite hard to take some of them seriously such as Kanye West accusing of George W. Bush not helping people in New Orleans fast enough because they are black :rolleyes:

I thought nothing of Lady GaGa UNTIL she decided to used her fame in the fight against DADT, which has cost out military countless Arab linguists when we are fighting a supposed "war on terrorism." I've never understood this policy in the least. Are you telling me that soliders who are trained to kill and being able to deal with the reality of being killed on a day-to-day basis, can't handle the psychological horror of serving with a gay person? It's absurd. And if they can't handle this, quite honestly they don't need to be carrying a gun, because they have the mind of child.

Ashendant 12-06-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jjstraka (Post 251159)
I thought nothing of Lady GaGa UNTIL she decided to used her fame in the fight against DADT, which has cost out military countless Arab linguists when we are fighting a supposed "war on terrorism." I've never understood this policy in the least. Are you telling me that soliders who are trained to kill and being able to deal with the reality of being killed on a day-to-day basis, can't handle the psychological horror of serving with a gay person? It's absurd. And if they can't handle this, quite honestly they don't need to be carrying a gun, because they have the mind of child.

What? do you consider lady gaga action over that good or bad?

jjstraka 12-06-2010 02:20 PM

Well it's pretty clear from the bulk of the post I think it's good. Before she did that I didn't think about her at all. I suppose every generation needs a Madonna clone who makes fun pop songs though.

Vil'rexin 12-06-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jjstraka (Post 251161)
Well it's pretty clear from the bulk of the post I think it's good. Before she did that I didn't think about her at all. I suppose every generation needs a Madonna clone who makes fun pop songs though.

I'm a different kind of person in my thoughts in such that I consider myself a right-leaning Moderate who supports low spending, lower taxes for all but at the same time, I'm also an Atheist and highly support gay rights on MOST issues. I think the whole gay marriage thing is total BS because if two people want to marry and spend the rest of their lives together, who cares! It's not going to affect your personal life in any sort and not to mention, there are tax breaks on married people so I see that as an unfair advantage simply based on your sexual preference. Now onto the military issue, I personally wouldn't have an issue with a homosexual soldier or military member next to me as long as they don't make the issue public all the dang time but realizing that most people can't handle the concept for whatever reason, I'm against it until the majority of people can accept it. At the moment, I just don't think it's the best idea.

Omacron 12-06-2010 02:52 PM

Frankly, I think we should go back to how they did it in sparta. When not fighting, all the soldiers fucked eachother. That way they'd stick together in combat.

jjstraka 12-06-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 251184)
Frankly, I think we should go back to how they did it in sparta. When not fighting, all the soldiers fucked eachother. That way they'd stick together in combat.

Think of what the movie 300 would have been like if it was accurate......no doubt it would have been seen as gay propoganda lol.

Omacron 12-06-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jjstraka (Post 251187)
Think of what the movie 300 would have been like if it was accurate......no doubt it would have been seen as gay propoganda lol.

Let's be honest.

300 was already inaccurate because the Spartans wore goddamn pants. Greeks went commando in skirts. This is the culture that invented oiling up 12 year old naked boys and making them wrestle for Herakles' sake.

jjstraka 12-06-2010 06:06 PM

I thought the movie was complete crap as it was. The acting was laughable, I really didn't care if the Spartans died or not. As far as graphic novel adaptions go, Sin City had it beat hands down. I haven't seen Watchmen.

Bolvar 12-07-2010 10:15 AM

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9941/tsalol.jpg

Omacron 12-07-2010 11:54 AM

You know what I love?

My mother's erotica company is already putting together a novella about an erotic rendezvous at an airline security line.

Bolvar 12-07-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Omacron (Post 251363)
You know what I love?

My mother's erotica company is already putting together a novella about an erotic rendezvous at an airline security line.

How jaded have I become when I can say that doesn't even surprise me in the slightest?

Ashendant 12-18-2010 01:59 PM

Finally

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12028657

This retarded law got thrown out

Also memes :P

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/0...jpg?1283064268

This may be outdated

Vil'rexin 12-18-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashendant (Post 253235)
Finally

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12028657

This retarded law got thrown out

Also memes :P

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/0...jpg?1283064268

This may be outdated

Just curious why so many people outside America care about how we run our military. Time will tell if this is a great move or not but I think it's going to be a bumpy road for a little bit.

Aneurysm 12-18-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasarax (Post 253236)
Just curious why so many people outside America care about how we run our military. Time will tell if this is a great move or not but I think it's going to be a bumpy road for a little bit.

Because the entire world gets affected by the actions of your military.

Yuber8900 12-18-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneurysm (Post 253237)
Because the entire world gets affected by the actions of your military.

Bwhahahahaha, burn suckers!

Vil'rexin 12-18-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aneurysm (Post 253237)
Because the entire world gets affected by the actions of your military.

How are you affected by whether our soldiers are openly homosexual or not?

jjstraka 12-18-2010 02:34 PM

The suggestion that trained soldiers would not be able to fight properly if serving with a open homosexual (who they probably know is gay to begin with) is absurd. Quite honestly, if they can't handle serving with a gay person, they have no buisness being asked to do the important work they are doing, it's that simple. The same argument about "unit cohesion" was used by opponents of having blacks serve in the same units as whites. This is a fantastic day for equal rights in this country, and it should have happend years ago, and the only reason it didn't is America's obsession with puritanical religious bullshit.

Ashendant 12-18-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasarax (Post 253240)
How are you affected by whether our soldiers are openly homosexual or not?

Mostly because what america does stamps a lot of countries with bad images in a vague label called the west, just look at this interpretation of how the iranian leaders see the west
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBDX...eature=related

Vil'rexin 12-18-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjstraka (Post 253243)
The suggestion that trained soldiers would not be able to fight properly if serving with a open homosexual (who they probably know is gay to begin with) is absurd. Quite honestly, if they can't handle serving with a gay person, they have no buisness being asked to do the important work they are doing, it's that simple. The same argument about "unit cohesion" was used by opponents of having blacks serve in the same units as whites. This is a fantastic day for equal rights in this country, and it should have happend years ago, and the only reason it didn't is America's obsession with puritanical religious bullshit.

Personally, I don't care if someone is a homosexual or not in the military when I go in but talking to some folks currently serving they don't seem comfortable with it for whatever reason(logical or not). Some of us just prefer a unit that runs perfectly and if it has to be for stupid reasons, so be it. It's just a little funny to me that so many people with little to no military experience(even those outside the country) tell us to just "deal with it".

Lon-ami 12-18-2010 02:45 PM

Surrounded by enemies, a bloody battlefield, bullets flying over your already bandaged head, your eyes blurred by the dust, comrades lying dead around you...

And you can't think of anything else but your brother in arms being gay.

Because there's nothing more important than that.

No matter you're in the middle of a war.

Your partner may be GAY.

GAY.

Maybe you should kill yourself, or run into the enemy screaming like a retarded paladin, just because HE IS GAY.

G-A-Y.

...

And I wonder why the talibans haven't still organized a gay-pride festival to destroy the moral of every single United States soldier.

Seriously.

S-T-U-P-I-D-S.

Omacron 12-18-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasarax (Post 253245)
Personally, I don't care if someone is a homosexual or not in the military when I go in but talking to some folks currently serving they don't seem comfortable with it for whatever reason(logical or not). Some of us just prefer a unit that runs perfectly and if it has to be for stupid reasons, so be it. It's just a little funny to me that so many people with little to no military experience(even those outside the country) tell us to just "deal with it".

I know plenty of people who aren't comfortable with having to wear fatigues. They'd rather go to war in jeans and a t-shirt, but tough shit.

SomeRandomEvilGuy 12-18-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jjstraka (Post 253243)
The suggestion that trained soldiers would not be able to fight properly if serving with a open homosexual (who they probably know is gay to begin with) is absurd. Quite honestly, if they can't handle serving with a gay person, they have no buisness being asked to do the important work they are doing, it's that simple.

I don't think that that's the only reason. Think of the reason for women not being able to serve on the frontline. Surely the same effect will be felt by homosexuals on the frontline.
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Originally Posted by Ashendant
Mostly because what america does stamps a lot of countries with bad images in a vague label called the west, just look at this interpretation of how the iranian leaders see the west

So a few fundamentalists lump us all in together. So what, it's not like it changes matters. We'd likely be against them regardless of the US.
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Originally Posted by Lon-ami
And I wonder why the talibans haven't still organized a gay-pride festival to destroy the moral of every single United States soldier.

Probably because technically they're supposed to kill gays. Of course, their definition of it seems to be different to ours.

Vil'rexin 12-18-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashendant (Post 253244)
Mostly because what america does stamps a lot of countries with bad images in a vague label called the west, just look at this interpretation of how the iranian leaders see the west
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBDX...eature=related

What can we do to make the boo-boos better Ashendant? Please help this poor country out...

SomeRandomEvilGuy 12-18-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasarax (Post 253250)
What can we do to make the boo-boos better Ashendant? Please help this poor country out...

I like you.


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