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Old 11-11-2018, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cacofonix View Post
Is Arthas still around in your Warcraft or no? Is he still in the Scourge or no?

Anyway, the only bit that might stand out as odd about Ner'zhul becoming the Lich King is what was it about him that made Kil'jaeden insist he do that job. I'd just write that Ner'zhul had a special affinity in himself among mortals for the magic of Nercromnacy so KJ figured he'd be most suitable as a controller for Undead.
It was just Blizzard forcing legacy characters into the plot regardless of how small it made the world seem.

In my opinion, the scourge and sentinels could have been given completely different backstories without bringing in the titans and burning legion.

The druid/mage divide was a key social division between the high elves and night elves. Then later lore introduced the blood elves, nightborne, etc to the point where the spirit of the original retcon was drowned out. So the alternate universe Sentinels could have something like the nightborne lore added to them to make into dark elves or something like that, explaining why there is a division between the high elves and night elves.

The Lich King doesn't need to be a recent addition to the timeline. WC2 retconned in the guardian of tirisfal as having been around since forever, so the alternate universe lich king could easily be written as an ancient figure who only recently became involved in the affairs of the rest of the world. For example, maybe the dark portal opening for the first time provoked the lich king into fighting the war of the spider or something.

If the alternate sequel to WC2 is supposed to have the same writing style, then the scourge and sentinels need their own POV chapters with in-character memoirs, not the omniscient narrator cliffsnotes in the WC3 manual.

Aegwyn's POV section basically served to retroactively explain why the first war happened in the first place, explaining plot points that were only vaguely alluded to in the WC1 manual and game. I did think it was a bit cliche that Medivh and Gul'dan were motivated solely by personal power as opposed to nationalism or something (the colonization of the Americas easily overshadows all fictional narratives about evil overlords), but they weren't the sole movers and shakers of the politics so this was forgivable.

I don't want to be lazy and just recap WC3 with some details changed, but writing a wholly new conception of the third war in the same style as WC1/2 is going to be hard especially if we are going to try to keep ideas from WC3 like the two new armies.

If we assume Warcraft Adventures remains canon, despite being cancelled, then years after the Second War ended Thrall is forming a new horde who have re-embraced their formerly declining shaman traditions. The novel Blood & Honor (at least the version I read, reprints may have rewritten it) has an epilogue which takes place years after Thrall formed the new horde and makes no mention of a third war, but it does give us a larger period of time between wars.

As suggested before this is the perfect environment for the Lich King to sway converts. But what motivates the Lich King in the absence of the legion retcons? What is his biography that reveals previously unknown information about the previously vague Azeroth history Aegwyn-style? We know that Azeroth, prior to retcons, explicitly had some form of Christianity and an afterlife inhabited by dead souls and demons. The shtick of the scourge, at least according to the unit lore on their website, is that they recruit from the souls in the neither (which is never mentioned in the actual plot event though it seems pretty important).

I can assume that the Lich King, prior to whatever made him the lich king, was a student of demonology and necromancy not unlike Gul'dan or Medivh. Perhaps he was even related to Tirisfal somehow. The important idea is that, a la WC1 and WC2, the villain isn't a generic evil bad guy but someone with very much understandable desires like wealth, power, land for his people or whatever else motivated real Europeans to commit genocide against the Amerindians.

The fact that the scourge recruits souls from the afterlife who retain their memories could play the key role. Rather than enslaving all undead, the lich king treats the souls of dead as vassals similar to how human kings treat peasants. Gul'dan's POV chapter in the WC2 manual explicitly states that he saw the souls of dead orc ancestors watching the living and desiring to become involved in the affairs of the world (at this point in time the orcs shaman traditions had decline and only rudiments of ancestor worship remained). Surely that could alter the culture of the scourge, perhaps making them more like the forsaken that appeared later?

So the Lich King could offer a new chance at existence for the souls of the dead, as well as promises of hope and revenge to the peoples of Lordaeron and Azeroth after the horrors of the first and second wars.

Ner'zhul and his death knights don't need to be included, but it might not be impossible that the Lich King rescues them when they are lost following the collapse of Draenor rather than Kil'jaeden.

Brainstorming will probably include a lot of ideas.
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