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Old 03-22-2017, 09:29 AM
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Warcraft has taught me a good life lesson and that is that "red means dead".
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:36 AM
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Warcraft has taught me a good life lesson and that is that "red means dead".
You know that slogan's a well-known piece of Western anti-soviet propaganda that Warcraft appropriated for its own use, like it does with everything?

Edit: Well, "better red than dead" is the actual quote.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:36 AM
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https://apnews.com/122ae0b5848345faa...tin-Government

Trump's campaign chairman was literally a Russian agent. Wow.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:08 PM
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Trump's campaign chairman was literally a Russian agent. Wow.
Seems like a pretty serious story. AP doesn't fuck around.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:18 PM
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That image counts the fucking US Armed Forces alongside the KKK.

Are you fucking serious with this commie Tumblr bullshit?

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Old 03-22-2017, 02:21 PM
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Seems like a pretty serious story. AP doesn't fuck around.
I hear it suddenly just became "fake news."
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:34 PM
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That image counts the fucking US Armed Forces alongside the KKK.

Are you fucking serious with this commie Tumblr bullshit?

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I don't agree with counting the us armed forces there but I do think there's a discussion to be had about their recruiting practices in poor communities
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Old 03-22-2017, 03:16 PM
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:00 PM
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I don't agree with counting the us armed forces there but I do think there's a discussion to be had about their recruiting practices in poor communities
And if that Discussion ends up being "Well, it makes sense, rich people can afford their own house, insurance, erucation ect far easier than poor people, so the Military targets groups that most benifit from what they have to offer" will that suffice, because a lot of the time the feeling I get about conversations being started is they only count if they follow the path they want.

On either side.

Like, what is a " conversation?" The social implications of why something is done? the political steps needed to adjust and create a shift in culture?
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:32 PM
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I don't agree with counting the us armed forces there but I do think there's a discussion to be had about their recruiting practices in poor communities
Have you ever been to a Military recruiting station or spoke with military recruiters?

I'd be more than happy to further discuss military recruiting standards and practices with you. I do have first hand experience as a military recruiter and someone who has worked with military recruiters.
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:35 PM
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:42 PM
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Have you ever been to a Military recruiting station or spoke with military recruiters?

I'd be more than happy to further discuss military recruiting standards and practices with you. I do have first hand experience as a military recruiter and someone who has worked with military recruiters.
Like Air Force recruiters have to even try! During RAP I saw so many people be sent away and the recruiters make their quotas way before the year is over. :p
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Old 03-22-2017, 04:45 PM
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Like Air Force recruiters have to even try! During RAP I saw so many people be sent away and the recruiters make their quotas way before the year is over. :p
I wish. It all depends on which part of the country you come from. Some parts are easier than others.

The South is easier to recruit in since they come to you rather than having to spend a lot of driving across various states in order to recruit.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:26 PM
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I wish. It all depends on which part of the country you come from. Some parts are easier than others.

The South is easier to recruit in since they come to you rather than having to spend a lot of driving across various states in order to recruit.
I forgot Indiana was full of the good guys so we don't have those kind of problems.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:36 PM
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From experience in TN, the recruiters targeted those who were either lower income or less likely to seek out a college degree. They were more aggressive among students with non-violent, but troubled records and those who weren't as academically capable. AP students were among the lower-half of their target groups, while non-AP more.

All of the above is anecdotal though, and only because my social group ran the gamut.
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Old 03-22-2017, 05:57 PM
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From experience in TN, the recruiters targeted those who were either lower income or less likely to seek out a college degree. They were more aggressive among students with non-violent, but troubled records and those who weren't as academically capable. AP students were among the lower-half of their target groups, while non-AP more.

All of the above is anecdotal though, and only because my social group ran the gamut.
Most people aren't able to join the military due to health, legal, or academic reasons. The first two years a lot of people get kicked out for failing to achieve standards. It isn't just a place for the desperate or the losers. There were several people who went to college first and then when they couldn't find employment they joined the military. People that join actually believe in national service and the mission.
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:07 PM
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From experience in TN, the recruiters targeted those who were either lower income or less likely to seek out a college degree. They were more aggressive among students with non-violent, but troubled records and those who weren't as academically capable. AP students were among the lower-half of their target groups, while non-AP more.

All of the above is anecdotal though, and only because my social group ran the gamut.
Seems kinda weird for a military recruiter to target people less likely to seek out a college degree when once they join the government will pay completely for their college, offer various commisioning programs if they want, GI Bill and all of that.

When we are making our pitch we have to bring up the free college and various programs that the government offers in regards to higher education and most of it doesn't actually involve you staying committed, much like if you go through one of the commissioning programs you have to give at least 6 years of service as an officer.

I guess that TN must not have a lot of college educated people. People with degrees are highly sought after by military recruiters due to all of the various expertise that they can bring.
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:10 PM
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The dairy farmer who's on the US Senate Intelligence Committee whined about some wiretapping bullshit today. Not long after, one of his coworkers on the same committee who is a former US attorney said they now have "more than circumstantial evidence" of Russian collusion. That's lawyer speak for "shit's getting real."
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:12 PM
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Seems kinda weird for a military recruiter to target people less likely to seek out a college degree when once they join the government will pay completely for their college, offer various commisioning programs if they want, GI Bill and all of that.

When we are making our pitch we have to bring up the free college and various programs that the government offers in regards to higher education and most of it doesn't actually involve you staying committed, much like if you go through one of the commissioning programs you have to give at least 6 years of service as an officer.
The USAF training courses are even college accredited. The USAF has a community college that you can get an associates from. My Associates in Applied Science in Electronic Systems Technology is worth more than many of the bachelor degrees people end up getting.

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The targeting is mostly because it's an alternative to college and possibly a future path. Basically, "Are you desperate for a leg-up? Then join the Army. Free health-care for life, free tuition, and a new family!" Of course none of that is quite so cut and dry in reality, but for people who want to be "all they can be," they'll be more willing to take a shot at the Army than deal with debt, poverty, and social dissolution.
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:20 PM
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Have you ever been to a Military recruiting station or spoke with military recruiters?

I'd be more than happy to further discuss military recruiting standards and practices with you. I do have first hand experience as a military recruiter and someone who has worked with military recruiters.
I've not, my guess is that on the whole they're decent people but that some attempts to be clever...

https://www.rt.com/usa/353488-pokemon-go-us-navy/

Can backfire and come across wrong, and as Ruinshin pointed out, attempts to recruit in low income areas can come across as preying on desperate people even if the goal is to help them or just target folks with the most to gain

I consider a "conversation" to be a discussion on the cultural impact of something and exploration of if change in action or presentation is warranted, or even possible


In all seriousness regarding the original image it probably IS a Russian scheme given how things have been going, but i was just happy to see an antinazi movement on the right
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:23 PM
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The targeting is mostly because it's an alternative to college and possibly a future path. Basically, "Are you desperate for a leg-up? Then join the Army. Free health-care for life, free tuition, and a new family!" Of course none of that is quite so cut and dry in reality, but for people who want to be "all they can be," they'll be more willing to take a shot at the Army than deal with debt, poverty, and social dissolution.
Where is your citation for your claim?
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I've not, my guess is that on the whole they're decent people but that some attempts to be clever...

https://www.rt.com/usa/353488-pokemon-go-us-navy/

Can backfire and come across wrong, and as Ruinshin pointed out, attempts to recruit in low income areas can come across as preying on desperate people even if the goal is to help them or just target folks with the most to gain

I consider a "conversation" to be a discussion on the cultural impact of something and exploration of if change in action or presentation is warranted, or even possible


In all seriousness regarding the original image it probably IS a Russian scheme given how things have been going, but i was just happy to see an antinazi movement on the right
Do you consider socialists to be 'on the right'?
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I've not, my guess is that on the whole they're decent people but that some attempts to be clever...

Can backfire and come across wrong, and as Ruinshin pointed out, attempts to recruit in low income areas can come across as preying on desperate people even if the goal is to help them or just target folks with the most to gain
Recruiters go into high income areas as well, recruiters go where people will listen. That's why we go pretty anywhere we can, from slums to Harvard.

Although, I find it odd that you use the word "desperate" people when it comes to describing lower income areas.

What do you mean by using that descriptor?
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