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Old 05-20-2016, 10:04 AM
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Yeah the actors do a great job [at times] bringing stuff to the screen that the books just can't capture the same way, though that's not exactly suprising, they are 2 different mediums.

Agreed that Arya/Tywin scenes were excellent additions, both characters came out of them better.

One change I liked a lot was the Red Wedding Dialogue. We went from the, somewhat shitty tbh, Book Dialogue about Jinglebell to the absolutely legendary "....I'll find another. =) "
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:25 AM
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So i started watching GoT last night. One day i'll watch the past shit. Anyway

I believe Dany plan was "Oil up the building so it catches fire faster than a fart next to a candle"

I also believe she convinced/manipulated some of the widows so they kneeled. After the first rows went down the rest is just normal human mass behavior.

Considering how she had the "she doesnt burn" or w.e. title going around before, thats probably why they didnt think she just got lucky. They probably saw the fire as some sign of the Gods (assuming they have them) because a tiny girl in a run full of men torching the fuck out of them seems unlikely
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:30 AM
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Yeah the actors do a great job [at times] bringing stuff to the screen that the books just can't capture the same way, though that's not exactly suprising, they are 2 different mediums.
Some adaptations are good, some are bad. The ruling factions of Qarth being condensed into a single Thirteen was good, especially the Sass King. The currently undermanned Small Council of King's Landing is stupid. Making the relationship between Cersei and Tyrion complex was good. Homogenizing the Ironbores and Stannis' faction into Drowned God and R'hllor wackos is bad.

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One change I liked a lot was the Red Wedding Dialogue. We went from the, somewhat shitty tbh, Book Dialogue about Jinglebell to the absolutely legendary "....I'll find another. =) "
"I'll make another" with regards to a son/daughter could have worked too.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:16 AM
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So i started watching GoT last night. One day i'll watch the past shit. Anyway

I believe Dany plan was "Oil up the building so it catches fire faster than a fart next to a candle"

I also believe she convinced/manipulated some of the widows so they kneeled. After the first rows went down the rest is just normal human mass behavior.

Considering how she had the "she doesnt burn" or w.e. title going around before, thats probably why they didnt think she just got lucky. They probably saw the fire as some sign of the Gods (assuming they have them) because a tiny girl in a run full of men torching the fuck out of them seems unlikely
The Dothraki believe in the great Stallion. The sun is a god, the moon is his wife and they are both part of The Great Stallion.

However Dothraki hate blood magics and dislike maegi.

The idea that ALL the Dothraki would bow before Dany and some wouldn't just gut her like a witch is kind of dumb.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:23 AM
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D.B.: Identify yourself to the world.
[holds microphone in front of GRRM, as if he is conducting a news interview]
GRRM : George R. R. Martin, author of Game of Thrones: The books.
D.B.: And what... what is this?
GRRM : It's a... notepad with brief ending of the books.
D.B.: And who is capable of putting that stuff together?
GRRM : Only me.
D.B.: Only you. Thank you, good Martin.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:57 AM
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If Martin dies, then DnD showverse becomes the only canon.

/cue ominous music
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:14 PM
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The Dothraki believe in the great Stallion. The sun is a god, the moon is his wife and they are both part of The Great Stallion.

However Dothraki hate blood magics and dislike maegi.

The idea that ALL the Dothraki would bow before Dany and some wouldn't just gut her like a witch is kind of dumb.
Well she had the doesnt-get-burned title thing going around for her before but (afaik, just going by what was showed this ep) nothing about her being a witch or doing magic.

The bowing is mob mentality i feel. But i dont have a hard time seeing them thinking that shit burning down from the inside was a divine act

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Old 05-20-2016, 12:28 PM
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If Martin dies, then DnD showverse becomes the only canon.

/cue ominous music
>"This was, truly, a song of ice...
>Jon and Dany have just been married, Tyrion is Hand
>...and fire!"
>The three dragons give a triumphant roar
>Jon, Dany and Tyrion climb atop their respective dragon
>They fly into the sunset
>And who
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>Based on the books by GRRM Martin
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:52 PM
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If Martin dies, then DnD showverse becomes the only canon.

/cue ominous music
A comic getting cancelled doesn't mean it's canon is continued by it's movie adaptation with a completely different plot. The show and the books aren't the same anymore as several plots and characters have been stitched into different Frankenstein's monsters.
Asoiaf will have an ending even if George dies. Wheel of time isn't nearly as popular and it still was finished by a different author. Asoiaf makes money. George saying there won't be an ending if he dies makes sense because who the hell likes to think about such things, especially when you're the author. You will have your Dany x Jon auntcest in the next 50 years or so.
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:35 PM
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So the night elves created the Scourge?
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:48 PM
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Bravo D&D. Simply bravo!

In all seriousness I don't completely hate it. The whole Bran and Hodor thing everyone saw coming from a mile away so I'm ok with it. I half-suspect that's what George has been planning all along anyway.
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Old 05-22-2016, 05:32 PM
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Bravo D&D. Simply bravo!

In all seriousness I don't completely hate it. The whole Bran and Hodor thing everyone saw coming from a mile away so I'm ok with it. I half-suspect that's what George has been planning all along anyway.
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Old 05-22-2016, 05:52 PM
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Hodor held the door.

This episode felt weird and disjointed. Like they were working down a checklist.
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Old 05-22-2016, 05:55 PM
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It hasn't even come out yet guys wtf
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Old 05-22-2016, 05:58 PM
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Judging by the leaked version that is circling around the web, HBO GO ejaculated prematurely once again.
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Old 05-22-2016, 05:58 PM
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The Bran stuff was pretty damn exciting. And kind of sad, at least Hold the do- I mean, Hodor. I have to wonder how exactly Meera and Bran are supposed to make it to a safe place, if that even exists for them anymore. Also I wonder exactly what did the Bloodraven intend to show Bran with that last vision.

EDIT: Didn't know it wasn't officially released yet, sorry.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:18 PM
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Holy shit. These revelations.
I for one never wondered about Hodor or his name, so this came as a fucking stroke of genius to me.

The pacing on this episode felt extremely rushed though, it really feels like they're trying to race through the loose ends before the finale...kind of sad, it's like the minute the source material was gone they didn't know how to give these moments proper room to breathe anymore.
Any why did we have to sit through about 5 minutes of watching a theater piece and warts on a cock?
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:20 PM
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It's product placement for a cock merchant.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:31 PM
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It's product placement for a cock merchant.
He'll get a good return on the investment in about 6 or 7 years.
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:47 PM
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What I did like was the Sansa/Littlefinger scene. Loved how she layed the verbal smackdown regarding Ramsay on him and just kept on hitting.

The Queen in the North arises.
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Old 05-22-2016, 07:00 PM
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I agree it went on a bit too long but I'm sure watching it'll factor into her decision if she winds up deciding to back out of becoming an FM at the last second.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:02 PM
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Besides being spoiled, that wasn't that bad. Clearly the only thing the show is good at is fantasy horror.

Also going to second that wew lad as a stark fan.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:05 PM
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That is no Euron but a drunken Irishman with attitude.

Also the house of Black and White has some stupid plot holes.

Waifu beats Arya for not being ''no one''
Gets mad when Arya beats her which means she isn't no one either, as she takes it personally
Jaqen backs the Waifu

Da fuq is going on?

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Old 05-22-2016, 08:08 PM
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That is no Euron but a drunken Irishman with attitude.
Shaman is that committed to her theory.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:16 PM
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I liked the part with Jorah and Daenerys.

The Hodor thing was sad. Bran just screwed his whole life because he couldn't be assed to listen to the old tree dude's instructions.

We got "Stannis was evil" shit shoved into the face twice, long after he was dead. But at least, Daenerys is also going to play the religious fanatism game now, so hopefully she'll face consequences for that too.

Littlefinger teleports himself into a scene where no one is capable of good acting.

The Euron shit was horribly done, imo, and terribly disappointing.

All in all, 7/10, because the good stuff kinda makes up for the rest. A little.
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