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Old 07-20-2006, 03:42 AM
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The damage done by SoC was reduced from 100% weapon damage on proc to 70% with an "increase" in proc chance.
Ok, but the retribution tree was made doable.

And to timolas, the fact that a shaman can own more classes than a paladin in BG or while collecting Sand in Silithus still has nothing to do with their actions inside a high level instance.

Thanks to the Carebearism of WoW, one_does_not_have_to_pvp_even_one_time, but on the other hand, if you dont have enough time, you dont have to go to high-level instances. And since PvPing is not possible inside those instances and works with completely diffrent systems, needs the use of completely diffrent tactics and completely diffrent kind of skills, PvP and high-level instances are completely unrelated and a class should not be bad in one of them just becouse it is good in the other.

Its about the same thing as saying: "In Diablo2 Druids can summon creatures! Nerf Druids in WoW!"

edit: and yeah, shamans should be more casterlike in my opinion too.
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Ok, but the retribution tree was made doable.

And to timolas, the fact that a shaman can own more classes than a paladin in BG or while collecting Sand in Silithus still has nothing to do with their actions inside a high level instance.

Thanks to the Carebearism of WoW, one_does_not_have_to_pvp_even_one_time, but on the other hand, if you dont have enough time, you dont have to go to high-level instances. And since PvPing is not possible inside those instances and works with completely diffrent systems, needs the use of completely diffrent tactics and completely diffrent kind of skills, PvP and high-level instances are completely unrelated and a class should not be bad in one of them just becouse it is good in the other.

Its about the same thing as saying: "In Diablo2 Druids can summon creatures! Nerf Druids in WoW!"

edit: and yeah, shamans should be more casterlike in my opinion too.
Shamans may be worse in PvE, but god forbid they buff them to own in that and don't nerf them in PvP. There needs to be a balance. Buffing them in PvE will just make everyone hate them more.
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:03 AM
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Shamans may be worse in PvE, but god forbid they buff them to own in that and don't nerf them in PvP. There needs to be a balance. Buffing them in PvE will just make everyone hate them more.
I agree with nerfing Shammy PvP, but if they wont buff their raidabilities at the meanwhile, we will have just another broken class.
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Old 07-22-2006, 06:33 AM
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Blizzard sure knows how to devert attention heh.

Reminds me of the episode of familiy guy where Brian's gaj cousin Jaspar wanted to get married.
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:51 AM
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I don´t know why you guys are complaining about the pve ability of the Shaman, the Horde can do more damage overall with Restoration shamans because of its mana totem and do Horde has much better kiting then the Alliance again because of totems.
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:27 AM
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I don´t know why you guys are complaining about the pve ability of the Shaman, the Horde can do more damage overall with Restoration shamans because of its mana totem and do Horde has much better kiting then the Alliance again because of totems.
Blessing of Wisdom is better than Manaspring totem. And even manatide totem becouse you can have BoW on 24/7.
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:26 AM
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Blessing of Wisdom is better than Manaspring totem. And even manatide totem becouse you can have BoW on 24/7.
Horde will now be getting this ability real soon.
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Old 07-22-2006, 02:24 PM
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Horde will now be getting this ability real soon.
Not for another 6 months.
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:32 PM
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Not for another 6 months.
And? Kel'Thuzad might not even be down by then.
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:59 PM
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It still is not "real soon now".
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:30 PM
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A well deserved nerf.

Shamans are supposed to be the caster oriented hybrid.
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A well deserved nerf.

Shamans are supposed to be the caster oriented hybrid.
It was called off.
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Old 07-22-2006, 05:38 PM
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The fact is that concerning raid instances, the only one where Alliance has an advantage is Naxxramas because of the paladins and knowing wow´s development team, i just know they´ll add an anti-undead spell to the shamans.
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