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Old 09-06-2010, 01:10 PM
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It was never specified whether Firelands or WoTA were going to be 4.1 or 4.2, just that they were to be patched in later post release. An Abyssal Maw Raid or Uldum Raid have always just been speculation with nothing confirmed.

My predictions are

4.1

- Firelands
- Abyssal Maw


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- WoTA
- Rift of Aln


Though I really hope Blizzard surprises me and decides to convert the existing planned Firelands Raid into a 5 man instance and instead builds the Rags Raid around a 4-6 Boss Sulfuron Keep raid instead. I really like having 5-mans come with Raid Zones like we got with ICC.

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Old 09-06-2010, 01:12 PM
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WotA was supposed to be 4.2 with SFK and Deadmines.
I thought SFK and Deadmines were supposed to be 4.1. This being before they were moved back to being launch
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:22 PM
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Well, don't trust me too much, I don't remember the exact details. Whatever, it's clear everything has changed with Firelands being postponed and old dungeons being released first day.

As for that Rift of Aln instance idea... I don't think so. That's for another expansion .
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:37 PM
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Well, don't trust me too much, I don't remember the exact details. Whatever, it's clear everything has changed with Firelands being postponed and old dungeons being released first day.

As for that Rift of Aln instance idea... I don't think so. That's for another expansion .
The Rift of Aln I believe is being suggested because one of the Cataclysm music files is called "Rift of Aln".
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:45 PM
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The Rift of Aln I believe is being suggested because one of the Cataclysm music files is called "Rift of Aln".
That is actually exactly the reason for my prediction. Plus I think it could be a very good side raid to the WoTA Raid. My theory is that the WoTA Raid deals with Xavius and then that ties us into the Rift of Aln Raid.

My theory breaks down like this. We know Xavius is destroyed. Then turned into a Satyr by Sargeras. Then destroyed utterly (or so we thought) by Malfurion. We all know he wasnt really destroyed however, and instead came to be the Nightmare Lord.

Well what if we are sent back to aid Malfurion to truly and utterly destroy Xavius in Satyr form during the WoTA, before he becomes the Nightmare Lord, thus altering the timeline. Perhaps that weakens the Rift of Aln (and the Old God behind it) enough to the point that we are able to gain entry to the place and defeat the Old God behind it.

Far fetched maybe?

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Old 09-06-2010, 03:10 PM
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That is actually exactly the reason for my prediction. Plus I think it could be a very good side raid to the WoTA Raid. My theory is that the WoTA Raid deals with Xavius and then that ties us into the Rift of Aln Raid.

My theory breaks down like this. We know Xavius is destroyed. Then turned into a Satyr by Sargeras. Then destroyed utterly (or so we thought) by Malfurion. We all know he wasnt really destroyed however, and instead came to be the Nightmare Lord.

Well what if we are sent back to aid Malfurion to truly and utterly destroy Xavius in Satyr form during the WoTA, before he becomes the Nightmare Lord, thus altering the timeline. Perhaps that weakens the Rift of Aln (and the Old God behind it) enough to the point that we are able to gain entry to the place and defeat the Old God behind it.

Far fetched maybe?
Very. The bronze dragonflight's entire purpose is to safeguard the timestream so it doesn't get changed. Sending us to change what happened would be totally again what they stand for. Not to mention the fact that it would pretty heavily change the events of Stormrage.
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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Not to mention the fact that it would pretty heavily change the events of Stormrage.
Well that would be the intention.
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:35 PM
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Well that would be the intention.
They wouldn't have an entire book written just to erase the events of it just a little while later.

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Old 09-06-2010, 03:41 PM
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:50 PM
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They wouldn't have an entire book written just to erase the events of it just a little while later.

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Grats.

And those events would still exist, just in a "different" timeline



Back to the Future time travel rules ftw.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:03 PM
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And those events would still exist, just in a "different" timeline



Back to the Future time travel rules ftw.
That is if Warcraft is following something like the Back to the Future time travel rules.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:08 PM
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Who is Aln anyway?
Hmm, maybe we should ask Nijel. Or maybe Bor and Nasam.
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:11 PM
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:15 PM
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Hmm, maybe we should ask Nijel. Or maybe Bor and Nasam.
With three kvaldir ships, a frozen river, and possibly a zone named after him, "Bor" is too pervasive to just be some random name. I want info!

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Old 09-06-2010, 11:03 PM
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You never know. Once upon a time the only "Vashj'ir" term in Warcraft was connected to Vashj'ir Honor Guard.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:18 AM
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Very. The bronze dragonflight's entire purpose is to safeguard the timestream so it doesn't get changed. Sending us to change what happened would be totally again what they stand for. Not to mention the fact that it would pretty heavily change the events of Stormrage.
Yet Blizzard haven't stuck to that. We spend pretty much every dungeon/raid in the Caverns of Time (Hyjal aside) being told to kill the evil Infinite Dragonflight that are attempting to change the timeline. We're told how disastrous it would be if they succeeded, and then we have Knaak - ahem - Rhonin prancing about without consequence after changing one of the, if not the biggest parts of the Warcraft lore.

Regardless, the dragonflights only purpose nowadays is to become raid bosses or fap over how amazing and powerful Rhonin or Malfurion is.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:09 AM
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Yet Blizzard haven't stuck to that. We spend pretty much every dungeon/raid in the Caverns of Time (Hyjal aside) being told to kill the evil Infinite Dragonflight that are attempting to change the timeline. We're told how disastrous it would be if they succeeded, and then we have Knaak - ahem - Rhonin prancing about without consequence after changing one of the, if not the biggest parts of the Warcraft lore.
I believe Rhonin and co. were sent back to fix the timeline, since some interference (seemingly Old God related) caused that massive time-rift in the present that threatened all reality. It was all rather poorly explained. The changes they made may have been relatively minor in comparison to the changes that would have occurred though, and thus have been necessary to the overall preservation of time.
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I believe Rhonin and co. were sent back to fix the timeline, since some interference (seemingly Old God related) caused that massive time-rift in the present that threatened all reality. It was all rather poorly explained.
Consider the source.

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The only "major" changes....the first - supposedly - regarded this "Hakkar the Houndmaster" guy. According to the original narrative, the Houndmaster was killed during the Legion invasion heralded by the Scourge. In Knick-Knaak's "altered timeline", he was killed by Malfurion during the War of the Ancients.

There is also the matter of the restoration of the blue dragonflight, which would later return to bite us in the ass in Wrath of the Lich King...
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With three kvaldir ships, a frozen river, and possibly a zone named after him, "Bor" is too pervasive to just be some random name. I want info!
Is the zone you're speaking of Borean Tundra? Because Borean simply means "northern" as in Aurora Borealis being the Northern Lights. They are only called that in the northern hemisphere. The same phenomenon in the south is called Aurora Australis.
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Is the zone you're speaking of Borean Tundra? Because Borean simply means "northern" as in Aurora Borealis being the Northern Lights. They are only called that in the northern hemisphere. The same phenomenon in the south is called Aurora Australis.
He might mean part of Utgarde keep, there's some section of it named bor I think.
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He might mean part of Utgarde keep, there's some section of it named bor I think.
Bor's Breath isn't it?
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Not sure, I know a frozen waterfall in stormpeaks is bors fall though.
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Is the zone you're speaking of Borean Tundra? Because Borean simply means "northern" as in Aurora Borealis being the Northern Lights. They are only called that in the northern hemisphere. The same phenomenon in the south is called Aurora Australis.
I know what it means, which is why I said possibly. In Warcraft, north may be named after him.

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Bor's Breath isn't it?
Yes. Bor's Breath is a frozen river in Storm Peaks.

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Not sure, I know a frozen waterfall in stormpeaks is bors fall though.
Bor's Fall is connected to Bor's Breath.

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