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Old 10-09-2014, 09:04 PM
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Raven Queen? Interesting name but I never thought ravens to fit Draenei.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:05 PM
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Raven Queen? Interesting name but I never thought ravens to fit Draenei.
Well, the alternative it's the cargo for an actual raven queen, but that seems unlikely.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:09 PM
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Closest thing is Ka'alu the Raven Mother. Probably is just a boat.
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It's one thing to have problems and voice your concerns, but when you endlessly bitch day in and day out about the same tired old shit, it honestly makes me wonder why you are even here. Generally when somebody doesn't like something, they stop caring about it.

And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:18 PM
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So... how the hell do you even get to Draenor if you're not already there? It's not the Dark Portal because Tanaan is a instanced quarantine zone, it's not the beta-only portal to Ashran.. I'm so lost. I know how to get OFF Draenor, but getting to it seems impossible.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:20 PM
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So... how the hell do you even get to Draenor if you're not already there? It's not the Dark Portal because Tanaan is a instanced quarantine zone, it's not the beta-only portal to Ashran.. I'm so lost. I know how to get OFF Draenor, but getting to it seems impossible.
I think if you go through the Dark Portal after completing Tanaan it just teleports you to Stormshield/Warspear.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:21 PM
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I think if you go through the Dark Portal after completing Tanaan it just teleports you to Stormshield/Warspear.
Yeah, but if you don't have flightpaths out of Ashran, you're practically stranded.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:41 PM
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I think if you go through the Dark Portal after completing Tanaan it just teleports you to Stormshield/Warspear.
The Dark Portal in Blasted Lands doesn't do anything.

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So... how the hell do you even get to Draenor if you're not already there? It's not the Dark Portal because Tanaan is a instanced quarantine zone, it's not the beta-only portal to Ashran.. I'm so lost. I know how to get OFF Draenor, but getting to it seems impossible.
Portals at Stormwind Keep and Grommash Hold.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:07 PM
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So a thought just occurred to me; are the Kirin Tor really neutral or is the entire Alliance including the Kirin Tor effectively neutral now?

Considering you'll be working with the opposite faction whether you like it or not and that you'll be recruiting members of the opposite faction for your Garrison it definitely feels like the player is neutral now, outside of Ashran.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:12 PM
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So a thought just occurred to me; are the Kirin Tor really neutral or is the entire Alliance including the Kirin Tor effectively neutral now?

Considering you'll be working with the opposite faction whether you like it or not and that you'll be recruiting members of the opposite faction for your Garrison it definitely feels like the player is neutral now, outside of Ashran.
The Alliance and Horde are sort of at peace now, and what is the Alliance but an anti-Horde force? Though I would expect more exclusivity in favor of outright allies.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:26 PM
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The Alliance and Horde are sort of at peace now, and what is the Alliance but an anti-Horde force? Though I would expect more exclusivity in favor of outright allies.
...ya know, the Alliance is still fighting a Horde, just not the political entity known as "The Horde." Heck, if you want to be really asinine about it, they're like a "No Homers" club where they can only fight one "Horde" at a time; they're allowed to ally with other Hordes while fighting against the one Horde.

Bonus points if you find a way to call a group of murlocs a Horde; then the Alliance and "The Horde" can always be besties!

Oh, text's inability to properly express tone... how would I be irritatingly maybe-sarcastic otherwise?
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:27 PM
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They have a peace treaty that can apparently be broken only when gameplay dictates they need to fight for PVP to happen.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:28 PM
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:36 PM
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You know, when I put the "i hate all of you" tag in threads, I'm not trying to be funny or cute. With a handful of exceptions, I really do hate almost everybody here.

It's one thing to have problems and voice your concerns, but when you endlessly bitch day in and day out about the same tired old shit, it honestly makes me wonder why you are even here. Generally when somebody doesn't like something, they stop caring about it.

And on that note, SoL is a forum I no longer enjoy. So, I'm done here. And I genuinely think the people who have absolutely nothing at all positive to say about the game and, the people whose posts are composed entirely of whining, really consider leaving (or at least sticking to non-WoW sections). Because if you truly get no enjoyment out of WoW, then why are you here?

With that said, goodbye.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:38 PM
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:51 PM
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:08 AM
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So a thought just occurred to me; are the Kirin Tor really neutral or is the entire Alliance including the Kirin Tor effectively neutral now?

Considering you'll be working with the opposite faction whether you like it or not and that you'll be recruiting members of the opposite faction for your Garrison it definitely feels like the player is neutral now, outside of Ashran.
The Alliance is half-neutral. It cannot attack itself or the Horde, but the Horde can attack it.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:33 AM
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The Alliance is half-neutral. It cannot attack itself or the Horde, but the Horde can attack it.
Not sure how that works. Outside Ashran nether faction seems to be attacking the other at all in WoD and prior to that there are heaps of occasions where the Alliance attacks the Horde.

On the follower thing, what horde character does the alliance get to recruit? The horde has that Kirin Tor Blood Elf, that still seems weird to me, but I wasn't aware of Horde NPCs the alliance can recruit.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:41 AM
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I feel like some people here would have no problem with Blizzard removing PvP altogether because it made sense with the lore. And then those same people would complain when things they care about get taken out of the game.

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Old 10-10-2014, 12:45 AM
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It's bittersweet.

On one hand, yes, finally new content.

On the other hand, I never finished challenge modes and I only got to Rank 8 in the Brawler's Guild. I killed Garrosh on normal a few times but never got an heirloom. Bleh.

Trying to finish challenge modes, still. Killed Garrosh a few times on flex but never got a heirloom, got to rank 9 only to be cockblocked by Nibbleh due to lack of gear/legendary cloak.



I feel your pain. I FEEL IT.



Oh, and I also need to do the green fire questchain but I don't think I can do both CMs and level my lock from 86 to 90 to do the green fire stuff all before Wednesday. Sadly, I have no money left to buy the expansion, and thus can't boost my lock. It's an abstract kind of feel.jpg.
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At this point, I agree.

Blizzard effectively wants to have its cake and eat it too by pretending to have this groundbreaking war in a faction capital while at the same time being completely unwilling to portray logical consequences of such an event.

Faction war can be done well, but Blizzard has half assed it and it has predictably flopped as a result.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:45 AM
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:49 AM
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I feel like some people here would have no problem with Blizzard removing PvP altogether because it made sense with the lore. And then those same people would complain when things they care about get taken out of the game.

Nah, I just don't think they should even bother with a lore pretense for PvP zones like Ashran, especially when it flies in the face of what the Alliance and Horde are working for all throughout the questing experience. It just causes a headache and doesn't really add anything meaningful.

Except Zappy Zooly. I'm not sure how I would wake up in the morning without knowing Zappy Zooly was with us.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:54 AM
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Nah, I just don't think they should even bother with a lore pretense for PvP zones like Ashran, especially when it flies in the face of what the Alliance and Horde are working for all throughout the questing experience. It just causes a headache and doesn't really add anything meaningful.

Except Zappy Zooly. I'm not sure how I would wake up in the morning without knowing Zappy Zooly was with us.
Speaking as someone who enjoyed PvP zones like WG and Tol Barad, I think they would be much worse without any sort of plot to them.

Blizzard should tie the zones into the overall story or else they would seem pointless to the people participating in them. Just because you like PvP doesn't mean you don't want to be immersed in something bigger than a random battle.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:55 AM
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Speaking as someone who enjoyed PvP zones like WG and Tol Barad, I think they would be much worse without any sort of plot to them.

Blizzard should tie the zones into the overall story or else they would seem pointless to the people participating in them. Just because you like PvP doesn't mean you don't want to be immersed in something bigger than a random battle.
Wintergrasp had a plot?

Oh, right. The factions were fighting over the nondescript titan McGuffin for Reasons.
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Old 10-10-2014, 01:01 AM
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Wintergrasp had a plot?

Oh, right. The factions were fighting over the nondescript titan McGuffin for Reasons.
I mean, it doesn't have to be a super elaborate plot. Something that seems plausible on the surface instead of dumping players into a random closed BG so they can kill eachother for no apparent reason. There's already enough of that in WoW's player vs. player content and I don't see why anyone would be against Blizzard innovating how players compete against one another.
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Old 10-10-2014, 01:25 AM
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Except Zappy Zooly. I'm not sure how I would wake up in the morning without knowing Zappy Zooly was with us.
Zappy Zooly will save us! All hail Zappy Zooly!
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