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Old 09-14-2015, 02:52 PM
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World War Z, or "Immigrants"?
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:21 PM
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World War Z, or "Immigrants"?
A lot of zombie flicks do seem to be about white Euro-American fears. It seems far-fetched at first, but when you peel back the monstrous layer and look at the zombie genre's history, you can see a lot of those undertones there.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:24 PM
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A lot of zombie flicks do seem to be about white Euro-American fears. It seems far-fetched at first, but when you peel back the monstrous layer and look at the zombie genre's history, you can see a lot of those undertones there.
Think so? I can honestly say I have never thought of it before. You're right about it seeming far-fetched at least at the moment.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:28 PM
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A lot of zombie flicks do seem to be about white Euro-American fears. It seems far-fetched at first, but when you peel back the monstrous layer and look at the zombie genre's history, you can see a lot of those undertones there.
Indeed. In fact, the very first modern zombie story had Noitora on the cover.



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Old 09-14-2015, 03:28 PM
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Zombie flicks appeal to right-wing economic fears, and left-wing social fears.

In the former category, the zombies represent the poor unwashed. They might be illegal migrants, people demanding handouts, and so forth. They are hungry (for brains or welfare), and act as one. Those who fight zombies are workers, independent entrepreneur types, and so forth.

In the latter, the zombies represent the religious, particularly those who are rural. They are hungry (they want to convert people), and single-minded. Those who fight zombies represent free thinkers, the urban elite, and so on.

It's vice versa for vampires, which represent right-wing social fears (libertines) and left-wing economic fears (parasitic bourgeoisie).
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:30 PM
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Don't forget consumerist zombies and animalist zombies (the world war Z movie ones)
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:32 PM
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You people can't even let my zombie movies stay out of your crazy political discussions! I all ready get that with every episode of Fear the Walking Dead. I swear to God they have all ready gone over the entire Racial Rainbow 3 episodes in.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:33 PM
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Think so? I can honestly say I have never thought of it before. You're right about it seeming far-fetched at least at the moment.
Check out White Zombie, the first zombie film, which deals with the exotic, dangerous, "black magic" of voodoo and features a black zombie who endangers white women. Or think about zombies as Communist proletariat whose revolutionary uprisings threaten the idealistic lifestyle of (sub-)urban capitalist financial materialism.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:34 PM
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:35 PM
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Did the black zombie shout "where the white wimmin at?"
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:36 PM
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You people can't even let my zombie movies stay out of your crazy political discussions!
How dare you shoot that zombie in the head? He only wants to feed on your baby daughter's flesh. You white cis scum zombophobe shitlord.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:38 PM
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You people can't even let my zombie movies stay out of your crazy political discussions! I all ready get that with every episode of Fear the Walking Dead. I swear to God they have all ready gone over the entire Racial Rainbow 3 episodes in.
It's part of my plan to make everyone in the world as sick of zombies and vampires as I am.
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It's part of my plan to make everyone in the world as sick of zombies and vampires as I am.
I like zombies, okay? The different takes on them, especially day to day survival is the one thing I never get tired of. Vampires are gay though, we can get rid of those.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:47 PM
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Why don't we take all the migrants and use them to colonize places for us? Like the moon?
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:47 PM
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Indeed. In fact, the very first modern zombie story had Noitora on the cover.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:22 PM
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:42 PM
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Vampires are gay though, we can get rid of those.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:00 PM
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Why don't we take all the migrants and use them to colonize places for us? Like the moon?
I don't think the moon need a 10000% increase in crime.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:05 PM
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I don't think the moon need a 10000% increase in crime.
I don't want the Daily Mail to have the future headlines of "The Moon Muslims enforcing Sharia law in <City>." My sides couldn't take it.
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Old 09-14-2015, 10:14 PM
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World War Z, or "Immigrants"?
LOL at that scene. Israelis and Palestinians singing together brought the destruction of Israel
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:08 PM
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I don't think the moon need a 10000% increase in crime.
Is there welfare on the moon?
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:34 PM
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Zombie flicks appeal to right-wing economic fears, and left-wing social fears.

In the former category, the zombies represent the poor unwashed. They might be illegal migrants, people demanding handouts, and so forth. They are hungry (for brains or welfare), and act as one. Those who fight zombies are workers, independent entrepreneur types, and so forth.

In the latter, the zombies represent the religious, particularly those who are rural. They are hungry (they want to convert people), and single-minded. Those who fight zombies represent free thinkers, the urban elite, and so on.

It's vice versa for vampires, which represent right-wing social fears (libertines) and left-wing economic fears (parasitic bourgeoisie).
What about stories like I am Legend, where the zombies are vampires?


EDIT: But seriously, I did enjoy your post. I guess it comes down to zombies embodying a threat of the mindless masses, and vampires embodying a threat of the heartless elite, with both of them insatiable in their needs/appetites to the extent of destroying society around them.

Does that translate to left-wingers fearing the lower class on social issues and the upper class on political issues, and right-wingers fearing the upper class on social issues and the lower class on political issues?

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Old 09-15-2015, 02:45 PM
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I don't think the moon need a 10000% increase in crime.
Wouldn't that still be zero?
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Old 09-15-2015, 02:50 PM
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Wouldn't that still be zero?
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