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Old 04-05-2019, 05:01 AM
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:06 PM
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Currently being talked about in the Discord, thought I'd share here.

Polygon did an interview with Ion about 8.2.

Biggest takeaways are the confirmation that flying will be enabled in Mechagon and Nazjatar (they said at Blizzcon that it it probably would be the case, but it wasn't "set in stone" like it is now), and talents will get minor tweaks but a major revamp will have to wait for the next expansion.

Perhaps most intriguing though, Ion elaborates on the comparisons between the Horde storyline with MoP's and how it will be different:

Hazzikostas is aware of the parallels to Garrosh’s story, and he says that the Horde is too.

“There are a couple of references here and there,” he says. “There are more coming. Members of the Horde leadership will remember going down dark paths before.”

He also notes that Garrosh’s motives were different; they were an attempt to restore a lost vision of the Horde at the expense of everything else. Sylvanas’ goals are still unclear, but Hazzikostas notes, “There will not be a trial where she is in chains. Sylvanas is not a character who would find herself in that situation ... ever.”


So at least from how I'm reading it, it's possible that all the talk of this "not being Siege of Orgrimmar 2.0" just meant "it will not be a literal 1:1 parallel of Garrosh/Sylvanas being the final boss who is spared and then put on trial."

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Old 04-08-2019, 11:01 PM
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8.2 Livestream on Thursday


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I believe this is the schedule for the next patches.

Mostly following the same patterns for PTR cycle duration and interval of days between patch release and raid opening.



A rough guess for 8.2.5 would be PTR on July 9th and patch on September 10th.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:58 AM
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https://de.wowhead.com/news=291224/c...s-and-xalatath
https://de.wowhead.com/news=291225/c...ts-to-xalatath

This is probatly already being discussed in Discord.
It shows how Sylvanas get into the posession of Xal'atath.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:25 PM
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Female Gilgoblin models. I guess they'd be the Goblin allied race counterparts down the lane.
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:23 PM
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Female Gilgoblin models. I guess they'd be the Goblin allied race counterparts down the lane.
Nowhere near playable quality, from what I've seen.

I was certain the next pair would be vulpera and junker gnomes, and this patch has all but confirmed that for me. Both have playable quality models, both added to the "races" tab.
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:59 PM
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Nowhere near playable quality, from what I've seen.

I was certain the next pair would be vulpera and junker gnomes, and this patch has all but confirmed that for me. Both have playable quality models, both added to the "races" tab.
It's possible gilblins might still make the cut, they're not 'playable' quality cause they still use the Cata goblin textures, which aren't likely to see an update until the goblin/worgen models do.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:41 PM
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Nowhere near playable quality, from what I've seen.

I was certain the next pair would be vulpera and junker gnomes, and this patch has all but confirmed that for me. Both have playable quality models, both added to the "races" tab.
I still find the Vulpera odd as they're not directly linked to any of the standard races.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:35 PM
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I still find the Vulpera odd as they're not directly linked to any of the standard races.
They were called "allied races" specifically so they wouldn't have to be, it was in an interview back when they first introduced them, specifically juxtaposed with subraces as a concept.
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Old 04-17-2019, 04:09 AM
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Spoilers from MMO-C:

Unknown_Male: Good to have you back, Jaina. Why did King Anduin summon you?
Unknown_Female: Sylvanas ordered the execution of Baine Bloodhoof. Anduin sent us into Orgrimmar to rescue him.
Unknown_Male: You risked your lives to save a leader of the Horde?!
Unknown_Female: After what he did for Derek, I felt I owed him a debt. We received some unexpected help from Saurfang... and Thrall.
Unknown_Female: You were fortunate that you were not betrayed. Presenting your heads might have regained their warchief's favor.
Unknown_Female: We had a common enemy. Sylvanas wanted us at each other's throats. Perhaps that's what Azshara wants, too.
Unknown_Male: Hold on... Are you suggesting we lay down our arms and fight beside them? After all they've done?!
Unknown_Female: No. Merely that we direct our efforts against Azshara instead of the Horde. That could buy time for Saurfang's rebellion to take root.
Unknown_Female: There must be vengeance for Teldrassil. But if Azshara is not stopped, she will unleash her master upon the world.
Unknown_Male: Very well. We will focus on defeating the naga queen. But if the Horde turns against us, they will answer for it.


Unknown_Male: Proudmoore and Shaw risked their lives to rescue Baine? Unexpected.
Unknown_Female: Is it? Not long ago, Alliance and Horde fought together to liberate Suramar from the Legion.
Unknown_Male: Cooperation between our sides has been the exception, not the rule. More often, we are at each other's throats.
Unknown_Female: His life spared for one he saved.
Unknown_Female: I am sorry for what happened to your people in Dalaran. The response was... Harsh.
Unknown_Female: Perhaps we do not need to. It might be enough to direct our attacks against Azshara rather than the Alliance.
Unknown_Male: That plan would infuriate Blightcaller... which makes me like it all the more. Hmm... "It stops when you turn from one another and walk away..."
Unknown_Female: Yes. We also have a history of setting differences aside to fight greater foes.
Unknown_Male: A lesson once taught to Jaina Proudmoore and me. Your counsel is wise, Thalyssra. Our focus must be on ending Azshara's reign.
Unknown_Female: A truce then? We fight Azshara here, not one another.
Unknown_Male: But if the Alliance undermines our efforts, the flames of war will rise again.


Unknown_Female: For all her lies, Priscilla Ashvane spoke one truth. The war between the Alliance and Horde has kept us distracted. Divided, we have no hope against N'Zoth.
Unknown_Male: We may have found common cause here in Nazjatar, but the battle still rages beyond these waters. So long as Sylvanas holds Orgrimmar, there can be no lasting peace.
Unknown_Female: The war needs to end, Lor'themar. You know this to be true.
Unknown_Male: I had hoped that reason would prevail. But the time has come to finish this.
Unknown_Male: I will tell my people what transpired here. Of how Azshara fell because we stood together. Of the threat rising from the depths, and all that is at stake if we should fail.
Unknown_Male: Then I will take my place beside Saurfang and Thrall, and pray that the sin'dorei stand with me.


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So, literally a rethread of MoP with a side villain that is fought by Jaina and Lor'themar while they learn to tolerate each other... Sight...

Also, who's Jaina talking to? It says male, so I guess it's not Tyrande. Does that mean that the night elves have no presence in the freaking Azshara patch? Is Blizzard's Horde bias so strong that the only "night elf" presence in the freaking Nemesis of the Night Elves patch is Talyssra and the nightborne?

If that ends up being the case, I'll be pissed. Very pissed.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:32 AM
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So, literally a rethread of MoP with a side villain that is fought by Jaina and Lor'themar while they learn to tolerate each other... Sight...
Come on. Say it. Who told you so almost a year ago?

Yes, i am totally gloating.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:53 AM
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Come on. Say it. Who told you so almost a year ago?

Yes, i am totally gloating.
You have all the right to gloat.

I was expecting the story to deviate around 8.1. I was wrong, I admit.

Even the evil warchief seeking Old God power seems to be happening again, WTF.
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:57 AM
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I think it's been clear it would not deviate sooner than the end of 8.2 since the moment we saw what it would be.
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:49 AM
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Also, who's Jaina talking to? It says male, so I guess it's not Tyrande.
Ten bucks say it's Tandred.
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:35 PM
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You have all the right to gloat.

I was expecting the story to deviate around 8.1. I was wrong, I admit.
Ok, in all fairness, i didn't see Lorthemar and Jaina being the protagonists again, because even I didn't think Blizzard would be that blatant about it.
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Old 04-17-2019, 03:06 PM
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Ten bucks say it's Tandred.
It's Genn, it seems. More datamining on MMO-C:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...Broadcast-Text

Hmph. You fight well... for an elf.
And you fight well for a wolf.


So, it seems Genn and Jaina are the Alliance leaders in Nazjatar, which sucks since none of them have any history with Azshara.

But at least Shandris is there, and I'm all up for her leaving Tyrande's shadow and growing as a character.

The naga have been repelled for now, but more are sure to come.
We can keep the brunt of her forces engaged here while our champions pursue Azshara.
Shandris, Thalyssra, you know better than anyone what Azshara is capable of.
Go with our champions. Help them find her.
Good luck... to all of us.


It seems to be Shandris that taunts Talyssra here:

Thalyssra. So the Horde sends its sorceress to plunder the treasures of Zin-Azshari--and seize the Tidestone for your warchief, no doubt.
Would you entrust it to Tyrande? Perhaps she needs it to invoke yet another forbidden ritual.
It breaks a queen's heart to watch her subjects squabble. Such a futile argument. In the end, you will all be mine again--one way or another.
Though our kingdoms stand divided, we share contempt for you, Azshara.
You see? We have found common ground already. Dear children, it is only a matter of time until you kneel before my throne. As a willing subject... or a broken corpse.
So long as Azshara controls the Tidestone, she has the advantage over us.
Its power should be turned against her--not against each other.
Agreed. Perhaps these ruins hold the key to striking down our common foe.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:51 PM
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It's Genn, it seems. More datamining on MMO-C:
https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...Broadcast-Text

Hmph. You fight well... for an elf.
And you fight well for a wolf.


So, it seems Genn and Jaina are the Alliance leaders in Nazjatar, which sucks since none of them have any history with Azshara.

But at least Shandris is there, and I'm all up for her leaving Tyrande's shadow and growing as a character.

The naga have been repelled for now, but more are sure to come.
We can keep the brunt of her forces engaged here while our champions pursue Azshara.
Shandris, Thalyssra, you know better than anyone what Azshara is capable of.
Go with our champions. Help them find her.
Good luck... to all of us.


It seems to be Shandris that taunts Talyssra here:

Thalyssra. So the Horde sends its sorceress to plunder the treasures of Zin-Azshari--and seize the Tidestone for your warchief, no doubt.
Would you entrust it to Tyrande? Perhaps she needs it to invoke yet another forbidden ritual.
It breaks a queen's heart to watch her subjects squabble. Such a futile argument. In the end, you will all be mine again--one way or another.
Though our kingdoms stand divided, we share contempt for you, Azshara.
You see? We have found common ground already. Dear children, it is only a matter of time until you kneel before my throne. As a willing subject... or a broken corpse.
So long as Azshara controls the Tidestone, she has the advantage over us.
Its power should be turned against her--not against each other.
Agreed. Perhaps these ruins hold the key to striking down our common foe.
It should be Genn and Tyrande imo.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news=291269/...-text-spoilers
then sylvanas is evil and works for the olds gods! no garrosh!

I'm glad to see Lorthemar and Thalyssra work together !! I like the relationship sindorei and shadorei
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I believe this is the schedule for the next patches.

Mostly following the same patterns for PTR cycle duration and interval of days between patch release and raid opening.



A rough guess for 8.2.5 would be PTR on July 9th and patch on September 10th.
The only problem that throws this off, is didnt they say Eternal Palace would open about 2 weeks after the patch launch? So it wont be the month and a half that BoD nearly was.

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I dont have the exact quote, so much stuff has been released on the sites with the patch that I dont feel like combing back a week to find it, but I remember talking about it in discord when it was said, and this is the quote that I had there

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I believe this is the schedule for the next patches.

Mostly following the same patterns for PTR cycle duration and interval of days between patch release and raid opening.



A rough guess for 8.2.5 would be PTR on July 9th and patch on September 10th.


November and December for 8.2? Seems a bit far. I'd think 8.2 is out by June or July.
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November and December for 8.2? Seems a bit far. I'd think 8.2 is out by June or July.
The civilized world uses day/month/year.
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The only problem that throws this off, is didnt they say Eternal Palace would open about 2 weeks after the patch launch? So it wont be the month and a half that BoD nearly was.
Yep, at this point 8.2 is pretty much confirmed to be out July 2nd.
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I was thinking about Il'gynoth's quotes again, and this patch 8.2 does give definite meaning to some of them. Il'gynoth seems to have been talking about the Old Gods' involvement with BfA all the time.

Generic stuff:
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Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator.
From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.
Curse of flesh and Azerite, it seems.

8.2 stuff:
Quote:
To find him, drown yourself in the circle of stars.
The king of diamonds has been made a pawn.
Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.
Azshara talks about Magni being used as a pawn for N'Zoth, as the Heart of Azeroth is the key to free the Old God.

Azshara also speaks of meeting her in the Circle of Stars, and we know she plans to use us to free N'Zoth.

Also, this patch indicates that Sylvanas is working with N'Zoth and Azshara in some way. It starts with her getting Xal'atath (the Torch to guide her way) and then sending Horde and Alliance to Azshara's trap.

Still unclear:
Quote:
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The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you.
Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.
At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming.
Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below.
Who's the lord of ravens?
What are the three lies?
What are the five keys?
Her third death, it's either about Alleria or Sylvanas. And seems to hint at how this expansion will end.
And the last one, I'm convinced it's the Sunwell. Who Sylvanas sent to Azshara's trap? Lor'themar. Is it to leave Quel'thalas vulnerable?

Is Sylvanas going to bring Xal'atath to the Sunwell?
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Why can't that be Azeroth? The Sundering would be her first death. The Cataclysm the second one. And her third death is approaching.
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Why can't that be Azeroth? The Sundering would be her first death. The Cataclysm the second one. And her third death is approaching.
Possible. Someone also suggested Xal'atath: she died when imprisoned in the dagger, then the dagger "died" to absorb the power of Sargeras' sword, and now she may be a raid boss.
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