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Old 04-15-2013, 12:05 AM
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I can't be the only one who is not feeling the mood whiplash that the song creates even if it's just over the credits, am I?
Eh it's weird, but far far better. The silence during the fade to black was unscathed, and that's important.
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Is there a link the version of the song that was played over the credits? I actually rather liked it.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:29 AM
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Is there a link the version of the song that was played over the credits? I actually rather liked it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwNkLjMCYHk
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:00 AM
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:48 AM
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Did my stream of the episode have lag when I was watching it, or was that song supposed to start playing while they were in mid-conversation? I could see that they were still talking but all I could hear was the music.
Yeah, yours was lagging.

In my version the fade to black happens first but then suddenly the song starts blasting. It is a harsh cut but there is no overlap with the actual conversation or mutilation.

At first the song was jarring but now I am loving it!
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:17 AM
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Gods, I so wish to be Podd right now.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:25 AM
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So is Podd just that big a pimp or is there some sort of undertone that I'm missing here?
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:28 AM
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God damn it, can anyone find the full version of the song that played at the end?

I've found other versions as well as a horrible quality truncated version but I can't find the full one.

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:06 AM
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Oh, I get it.

You don't pay the women at a brothel, you pay someone like Littlefinger or whoever owns the place. Tyrion had likely already paid for the women and threw down the extra money knowing they wouldn't take it and that Podd would bring it back, allowing them to give him an additional confidence boost by letting him believe he was just that good.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:12 AM
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My friend is losing his mind that she is selling a dragon though. I also thought he was going to shit when they cut off Jaime's hand. He literally jumped out of his seat.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:20 AM
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Oh, I get it.

You don't pay the women at a brothel, you pay someone like Littlefinger or whoever owns the place. Tyrion had likely already paid for the women and threw down the extra money knowing they wouldn't take it and that Podd would bring it back, allowing them to give him an additional confidence boost by letting him believe he was just that good.
I don't think so.

It is a highly fail prone ploy, all it takes is for him to visit such a place again and he will know what happened and it will only make him feel worse then he was to begin with.

I think he is a tripod personally, just for pun.

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Old 04-15-2013, 05:27 AM
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Either that or his member has a very advantageous curvature.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:06 AM
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Also, the game of musical chairs was awesome subtle characterization.

Cersei, put her self at Tywins right hand.
Littlefinger, the opportunist got as close as possible.
Varys is more cautious
Pycelle is a chump
Tyrion distancing himself from the family, while also trying to put himself in a seat of power.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:44 AM
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I think Podrick did not do shit and refused the services, thus they sent him home with the money

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Old 04-15-2013, 06:56 AM
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The music was jarring by design, but if it came in any earlier than the fade to black then it would have been messed up. It had to be *chop* *Jaime screams* fade to black THE BEAR THE BEAR THE BEAR
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:02 AM
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Did my stream of the episode have lag when I was watching it, or was that song supposed to start playing while they were in mid-conversation? I could see that they were still talking but all I could hear was the music.
... The exact same with mine. That added a solid amount of poor drama.

Hooray for Ramsay though. Wonder how many people picked up the bastard line...
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:23 AM
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I think Podrick did not do shit and refused the services, thus they sent him home with the money

Fits in every sense
Except that his bluff would've been called as soon as Tyrion and Bronn sat down with him for "COPIOUS details"
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:45 AM
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Hooray for Ramsay though. Wonder how many people picked up the bastard line...
I'll admit that I did but I'm really on the fence about who that character is and if it really is Ramsay. Or if it's Reek or someone compeltely unrelated.

I'm still not sure that it's even him. He has a totally different personality then the what he has in the book. In the book, the guy is a bully and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever and didn't try to hide who he was. And I think that is what is throwing me off about him because this guy is actually pretty likeable, but it could be all a trap, which I think it could be.

The credits refer to him as "Boy". So they probably have something up their sleeve.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:13 AM
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It's all an elaborate scheme to make him think that he has been rescued, only to pull it out from underneath him at the end.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:52 AM
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The credits refer to him as "Boy". So they probably have something up their sleeve.

Iwan Rheon was cast as Ramsay Snow. His character is a big reveal since we never saw him during this book.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:00 AM
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be tv-show-only? There shouldn't be any black bars in here.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:15 PM
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Iwan Rheon was cast as Ramsay Snow. His character is a big reveal since we never saw him during this book.
What is your source on that? Not saying your wrong, I'm curious.
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What is your source on that? Not saying your wrong, I'm curious.
If you're using knowledge from the books, there's no one else it could be, as there are no other characters of consequence who are involved in that part of Theon's storyline.

Based on knowledge expressly from the show, there's the part where a) we've never seen him before, b) he is suspiciously placed to assist Theon right when he needs it, twice, c) the character isn't named in the credits OR in dialogue, d) the actor refuses to confirm or deny what role he's playing, and e) the torturer specifically uses the word "bastard" to refer to him.

Evidence from the show suggests that Iwan Rheon's character is Ramsay Snow, Roose Bolton's bastard. It's not confirmed until it happens in the show, but that's the supposition people are making and it seems to be bearing out that way so far.
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If you're using knowledge from the books, there's no one else it could be, as there are no other characters of consequence who are involved in that part of Theon's storyline.

Based on knowledge expressly from the show, there's the part where a) we've never seen him before, b) he is suspiciously placed to assist Theon right when he needs it, twice, c) the character isn't named in the credits OR in dialogue, d) the actor refuses to confirm or deny what role he's playing, and e) the torturer specifically uses the word "bastard" to refer to him.

Evidence from the show suggests that Iwan Rheon's character is Ramsay Snow, Roose Bolton's bastard. It's not confirmed until it happens in the show, but that's the supposition people are making and it seems to be bearing out that way so far.
Here's the deal and this is why I'm on the fence on this. We are never told ALL of the details of Theon's time with Ramsey after the fall of Winterfell.

In the books, we see Theon being carted off by Ramsey and then in the next book he appears as Reek. We get bits and pieces of his time, but never the full story. As we can see in the show, it has changed a lot and it ended up being Theon's own men who turned him over to Rob's forces. So we can easily say that this is filling in all the blanks of Theon's time in captivity.

Now as for being called a "bastard" well the only problem is that a lot of characters on this show have been called a bastard. Does that mean that every single character who gets called it is one? Tyrion isn't a bastard for example. Bastard doesn't always mean "a bastard born of a non-Lord and Lord".

Could I be wrong? Of course. Could this all be a red herring and this character is actually Reek and is delivering him to Ramsey as part of a sick twisted game? Sure, that could happen. Or this could be someone else that Ramsey paid off, or someone who got paid by Asha and then forced by Ramsey to deliver him elsewhere? So many possibilities on this.
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