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34 | 53.13% |
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30 | 46.88% |
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll |
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![]() Banished Join Date: Mar 2013
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![]() I'm sorry about it but I did leave you guys in that "Opening Letter" thread, and I really didn't expect some people(not including you) would give false information, and that's how the end was settled last time. So I felt largely insecure about it.
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![]() Lord of the Assassin's League Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Canadaland
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![]() Feast on it, let it satiate you until you reach a level where you too see with open eyes where your actions will steer us. Your hand will doom or save us, the the future of us is in your grasp. Be the fist, not the cowardly sweaty palm.
It's a community we have all grown to love. Although in Slowpokes case, he loves it so much it's tied up in his basement. |
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Unlearn your hatred. See the light.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Oct 2009
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![]() It's not Monday. Today is my "run grannies over with the car" routine.
Oh, really?! What false information did I give? Are you denying you circumvented a ban by creating a new account? Are you denying you tried to hide it was you by ignoring people who called you out on your bullshit? Last edited by Gortrash; 05-23-2013 at 06:53 PM.. |
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And I don't want to bring the whole mess up again, but you think it's needed, I will do it. |
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![]() There was no functional way to defend himself because all avenues of communication, official or unofficial, had been cut for him, even if the alt account was made by him. Even Bolvar agreed it was to be expected that he made an alt account. Was anyone hurt? No. Are the Rules and Regs sacred, or are they in place to ensure people get the most out of the forum and enjoy themselves?
You people are crazy. Anyway, Slowpoke. I ask you stay out of this discussion.
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![]() Lord of the Assassin's League Join Date: Jun 2010
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![]() Eternal Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Niagara Region, Canada
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This issue is a microcosm of some of the problems society currently faces.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Mar 2010
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I defended you in the first thread because despite that, it was the right thing. Cantus pulled a trigger he shouldn't have as per his own comments. You still made a new account. But they let you stay. Now, they are closing your dog pin and you should be out. Until you screw up. Not because I like you. I don't hate you either. You just creep me out. But because its the right thing. |
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![]() And this is what it comes down to.
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![]() Lord of the Assassin's League Join Date: Jun 2010
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![]() Elune Join Date: Oct 2009
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![]() Lol, that's the first time I misunderstood you because I misread your post, not because of your broken English.
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![]() Lord of the Assassin's League Join Date: Jun 2010
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![]() Maybe we should list pros and cons of keeping him around, this specific case, not just the big picture. What do you have Timolas, where do you see this going? What has the last few years of observation and countless cyclical conversation taught you.
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![]() Still far too much Internet drama for my taste.
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![]() Ethermancer - Admin Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: DC, U.S.
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![]() Pros: He's active and makes a metric fuck-ton of threads.
Cons: Most of his threads are too niche to go beyond 10 pages and he's completely socially inept to the point that I honestly don't trust him around 90% of the forums. No seriously, Xilizhra is less of a threat to others because she understands the difference between right and wrong inhibitions and when to seek help. SPK doesn't, and it scares the living shit out of me when it comes to our membership. Come the day SPK lets his obsessions focus on a single member (for whatever reason that is), I have no doubt that a legal injunction will occur regarding his stalking that member. And I also have no doubt that it won't stop him because he has no damn clue about where you draw a line on such behaviors. Does that make me a paranoid fuck, maybe. Should I still assure that this forum remains safe for its membership? Yes. And now you know why I sought to remove him. |
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![]() Lord of the Assassin's League Join Date: Jun 2010
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![]() Exactly. An end to it would be nice.
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The value of Scrolls of Lore lies in what it offers to people. It offered me something incredible. It offered me friendship. It gave me some of the best friends I've ever had and still have. Last summer, the group of friends I'd made here met up in Malta, and we had an amazing time. We remain in touch over Skype every single day and play Pathfinder together on Fridays or Saturdays. Great War is a monument we created together. Etc. You get the idea. What's more, there were days I used to argue here. I'd argue about politics, religion and Warcraft lore. I'd get angry when people dissed my favourite factions in Warcraft, or disagreed with me. I took it very personally. I'd argue with Nephalim, with Gurtogg Bloodboil, with others whose names I have forgotten. I argued with Bolvar. What I learned was that Bolvar's religious beliefs have nothing to do with me. They're not an example of who he is as a person. He may believe that Islam is terrible, or that gays are going to hell, or that I'm going to hell. But he doesn't believe these things because he's a bad person. In fact, I stopped discussing politics and religion because I realised he was good, and a good father, and a great man, even if he gets way too much pleasure out of bashing people who share my beliefs. He was a large part of why I stopped arguing on the forums. Because I didn't want to fight him any more, I wanted to focus on what we had in common, out of respect. I only enter a debate if I have a question, and I let people clarify both sides of an issue. What does this have to do with Slowpokeking? Everything. Think about that for a minute. What makes you all so passionate that some kid you've never met and has never insulted anyone deserves to be bullied and banished from your midst simply because he has violated some social norms? Harmlessly? What is it about his posting habits that gets your pants so twisted, and your jimmies so rustled, that you can't use the Ignore feature? I think those of you who take issue with him so passionately show more social fault and defect than he does. I think that Slowpoke is harmless, and has contributed a lot to this forum. He may not have contributed things of a certain level of quality, but by his presence Scrolls is what it is, because a community is made up by its posters. I'll tell you what diminishes a community. Division and hatred. And that's all a lot of you have begun to show recently. I'm ashamed of what Scrolls is becoming, not because of people like Slowpoke, but because of those who can't see past basic differences, and show some humility and compassion to their fellow man. That is what I have learned.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Feb 2010
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And Bolvar, a good man? Are you serious with that Tim? Last edited by SmokeBlader; 05-23-2013 at 07:26 PM.. |
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![]() I remember during the hype about Guild Wars 2, Slowpokeking was kind enough to send me a pdf of the Ghost of Ascalon novel, just generally being helpful. He's also sent me lots of other books, just to be nice. He's done more for community and good-will than most of you present.
... I didn't say he couldn't do with some polish.
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![]() While you seek closure by removing the catalyst to this drama, I just want the drama to be done with. I'm not voting. I really don't care enough to be asked.
Vote to boot him and deal with the consequences, or vote to let him stay and do the same. |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Nov 2012
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![]() Wait Tim, you're a gay Muslim?
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![]() I laughed. No. But that's what airport guards probably think every time they see my beard and handsome looks and give me a pat-down.
But I'm friends with gays and Muslims. There are other things Bolvar disagrees with me with which I find more personally offensive... like 'liberals are weak' bullshit.
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