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Old 10-06-2017, 10:52 PM
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They're making all the undead 'pretty' instead of just STRAIGHTENING THEIR DAMN SPINES
Maybe the "pretty" Undead (e.g. Nathanos) are going to be the Forsaken "subrace" option.
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Old 10-06-2017, 11:02 PM
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lorewise, they shouldnt.
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Old 10-06-2017, 11:17 PM
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Maybe the "pretty" Undead (e.g. Nathanos) are going to be the Forsaken "subrace" option.
Which will be dumb.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:35 AM
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I honestly don't expect subraces that'd be a complete model change just due to the insane amount of work that'd be for all the races.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:24 AM
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But is that an incorrect assumption?
It would be winking the elbow in the wrong direction.

Yeah, players are basically amoral muderhobos but that's not a narrative Blizzard acknolwedges
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:36 AM
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I'm not too baffled. They originally had a plan for him, but realized something extremely important. He was seen as the person responsible for Warlords of Draenor. We had more personal reason to dislike him than a lot of villains in the series. The only excuse for players to work for him is under the assumption that they're supposed to be amoral murderhobos who don't give a shit about anything besides their loot.

The story doesn't fit because, quite rationally, the correct response would be to bash his brains in like every other hostile whelpling that attacks you. Which he did. He attacked both the Alliance and Horde, and triggered another meaningless war.
So first, I can't count how many times the player has worked with notorious bad guys in the past. In times of necessity, we have allied with demon-worshipping or summoning people, we have allied with undead, we have allied with Illidari, and Illidan himself, and we have even allied with Magatha "the real Betrayer" Grimtotem. So I'm going to go ahead and say that allying with Wrathion - who possesses the power and maybe the knowledge of a titan Keeper - during the most dire situation tthis world has ever known is not that big a leap.

Secondly, there's a difference between "this particular storyline didn't fit so we removed it" which is perfectly acceptable, and "we don't know what to do with Wrathion". Legion was the culmination of everything this character had ever worked for. They have literally built him just for this moment. The writers themselves, not the players assuming or theorizing on things. That was his time. It was possible to make him relevant during this expansion.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:49 AM
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I honestly don't expect subraces that'd be a complete model change just due to the insane amount of work that'd be for all the races.
Yeah, definitely not. Skins like dark iron dwarves, Lightforged draenei? Sure.

Subraces like Broken? Not gonna happen.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:04 PM
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Lightforged draenei is not gonna happen. Jesus F. Christ.
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Old 10-07-2017, 02:44 PM
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Yeah, definitely not. Skins like dark iron dwarves, Lightforged draenei? Sure.

Subraces like Broken? Not gonna happen.
I agree with Leviathon that something that would require a total new model won't be implemented.

But Broken will happen, I'd bet. They are not completely new models, just modified draenei models. The fact that the animations (except for head) don't need to be done from scratch is already a big benefit.

The whole point of sub-races is too implement things that are just variations of existing races and would otherwise seem lazy if implemented as "new" playable races.
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:57 PM
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After playing a certain Private server....

I wish WoW could go a route without classes where you could pick talents and abilities (have i mentioned how much i hate the Cookie cutter talents added in MoP??)

being able to play a feral druid in cat form with seals and windfury (windfury + 1.0 attack speed + attack power stacking) = fun as fuck.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:18 PM
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After playing a certain Private server....

I wish WoW could go a route without classes where you could pick talents and abilities (have i mentioned how much i hate the Cookie cutter talents added in MoP??)

being able to play a feral druid in cat form with seals and windfury (windfury + 1.0 attack speed + attack power stacking) = fun as fuck.
And broken and imbalanced as fucked.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:19 PM
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What I want to see is for the ability to go rogue--join the Defias and screw over Westfall, or reject Elune to become a satyr as a Night Elf. Not every alt needs to be raid-capable.
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Old 10-07-2017, 04:25 PM
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And broken and imbalanced as fucked.
If everyone can go one way and Become whatever the only thing that becomes unviable are some talents and builds, just like the current game.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:17 PM
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Always those hidden gems... : p
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:30 PM
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Always those hidden gems... : p
wuzzat?
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:33 PM
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wuzzat?
It's a Blood Knight coloration of the t21 paladin.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:36 PM
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It's a Blood Knight coloration of the t21 paladin.
That is NOT aviable ingame.
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Old 10-07-2017, 05:40 PM
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That is NOT aviable ingame.
Yep. Prob NPC armor for the future IF it is used.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:00 PM
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That is NOT aviable ingame.
Ah, nice.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:34 PM
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What I want to see is for the ability to go rogue--join the Defias and screw over Westfall, or reject Elune to become a satyr as a Night Elf. Not every alt needs to be raid-capable.
Oh man, I'd love this, but I don't know how they'd make it work.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:08 PM
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Yep. Prob NPC armor for the future IF it is used.
It's still interesting that they'd make that design. It suggests they're at least considering having Blood Knights relevant in some way. Honestly, I've been hoping to see some major Blood Elf involvement with the Army of the Light.

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Old 10-08-2017, 12:08 AM
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Yep. Prob NPC armor for the future IF it is used.
I hope it goes to Liadrin if it is.
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:19 AM
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Damn, I want that armor for my main. That would look much more close to the ideal than the one I use at the moment (https://worldofwarcraft.com/de-de/ch...rasza/afaslizo).
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Old 10-08-2017, 01:21 AM
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I hope it goes to Liadrin if it is.
Just a quick simulation how it could look like

Also, there are item versions of Varian's shoulders. After bit tweaking with the file names I got them to work:
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Old 10-08-2017, 03:05 AM
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I wonder if Varian's shoulders were at one point intended to be a reward from Tomb of Sargeras or Broken Shore, like Garrosh's shoulders in SoO?
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