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Old 10-22-2011, 07:50 AM
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Default Anyone else worried about the future?

I mist firstly admit that I am a very negative person overall. But at this moment I am VERY worried about the game.


Never before has an expansion gathered THIS much hate across the board..
People everywhere are raging at MoP, and looking at the official Youtube video I think the dislikes are starting to win....


What are your thoughts?
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:53 AM
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Whiners whine. No need to alert the press.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:54 AM
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Whiners whine. No need to alert the press.
This is so many words.

People find reason to whine about anything if they can't think outside there little bubbles. Its a human trait, the fear of the unknown and all that, yet people think society has advanced beyond it? not from what I read here.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:58 AM
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And once we get closer to the release date then the haters will be reduced to a tiny minority while everyone posts how this is the greatest expansion ever.

It's just the nature of these things. Always in cycles and all that.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:58 AM
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Statistically, Pandaren have been the most requested addition to World of Warcraft by a large margin. There's no problem, just a loud and angry minority.
When I hear this said, I read it as a pre-emptive rationalization of oncoming disappointment with "people don't know what they want and are too stupid to be worth pleasing." Pandaren have been requested forever, but there is a concept of "too much of a good thing."

I don't like MoP very much. However, I don't think there's much Blizzard could have done to reverse WoW's secular decline, except perhaps through radical game changes that no one really expected. I would've preferred a South Seas expansion, but do I think this would have had a huge impact on Blizzard's bottom line? No. Those who subscribe / unsubscribe over lore are small in number, and can be re-enticed in the future.

I haven't played WoW too much since patch 2.3. Each time an expansion comes out, I reactivate my account, play through the new leveling content, fuck around in the dungeons a while, and then quit within 2 months. I will likely do this for MoP, and I would have done this for any other expansion. For players who meet my profile - and I suspect there are many - Blizzard's best strategy isn't to choose Setting A over Setting B - it's to come out with lots of small expansions that expand the endgame and perhaps keep players engaged for a while. I'm hoping that the relatively-unambitious scope of MoP (6 new zones? Really?) at the moment portends a faster expansion cycle (as Blizzard reps have repeatedly stated they'd like to see.)

But the fundamental question that anyone should be asking here is NOT whether they would have preferred something other than MoP, but what Blizzard could have done instead of MoP that would lead to dramatically-different expected subscribership features. An expansion based around Azshara and N'Zoth really wouldn't do it, imo. Yes, it would've generated more initial hype but I don't think that translates to too much.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:16 AM
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The way I see it, Blizzard is trying for a change of pace.

We'll have to wait and see how it actually plays out.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:38 AM
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And once we get closer to the release date then the haters will be reduced to a tiny minority while everyone posts how this is the greatest expansion ever.

It's just the nature of these things. Always in cycles and all that.
Indeed. Jesse cox and wowcrendor summed it up in that video of theres, about how wow players whine, cry and gripe about EVERYTHING, but blizzard still produces awesome stuff and they still play it.

I often imagine in my mind, these players are like fat kids in a support chair who keeps demanding food from his mother, but no matter how much she feeds him he still wants more, never satisfied with what she does, never appreicates it and even insults her every time she does something new. THAT what these kind of players are like, cept there behind a computer screen.
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:40 AM
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There's nothing wrong with complaining as long as there are valid reasons.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:12 AM
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Indeed. Jesse cox and wowcrendor summed it up in that video of theres, about how wow players whine, cry and gripe about EVERYTHING, but blizzard still produces awesome stuff and they still play it.

I often imagine in my mind, these players are like fat kids in a support chair who keeps demanding food from his mother, but no matter how much she feeds him he still wants more, never satisfied with what she does, never appreicates it and even insults her every time she does something new. THAT what these kind of players are like, cept there behind a computer screen.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:43 AM
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Indeed. Jesse cox and wowcrendor summed it up in that video of theres, about how wow players whine, cry and gripe about EVERYTHING, but blizzard still produces awesome stuff and they still play it.

I often imagine in my mind, these players are like fat kids in a support chair who keeps demanding food from his mother, but no matter how much she feeds him he still wants more, never satisfied with what she does, never appreicates it and even insults her every time she does something new. THAT what these kind of players are like, cept there behind a computer screen.
So basically people aren't allowed to hate a Blizzard product?

Nice narrow view of the world.

It couldn't just be that people have some actual foresight and can recognize shit for being shit. It's kind of sad how emotionally attached some people are to Blizzard.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:13 PM
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They made the mistake of implying that this is all there is.

Everyone was kinda expecting Pandaria at some point, but they were expecting Kul Tiras, Zandalar, Undermine, etc to come along for the ride. This stuff, god only knows, some of it might appear in patches in this expansion. But all they're showing in Blizzcon is pandas taking the entire spotlight of the game all for themselves.

And, yunnow, given their history, it's a bit like if Bungie announced that they were going to actually produce Pimps At Sea.
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:52 PM
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I hope pets get held items damnit.

I want my Life Orb Mixmence, scarfgon, and air balloon excadrill!
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:24 AM
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People don't hate change. If you wake up this morning and all of a sudden you won the lottery, are you gonna complain? People just don't like the kind of change they don't like. Saying people dislike MoP because they dislike change is as ignorant as saying it's Kung Fu Panda.

While Padarens are a highly requested race, many people are against the idea. The former being true does not make the latter false.

On the note of lightheartedness. Warcraft has always been serious, with moments of comedy sprinkled in between. That comedy is becoming hard to appreciate due to its increasing presence. Seeing Harrison Jones was fun for the first time, the problem comes from having a whole zone's main quest line dedicated to him.

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Old 10-22-2011, 07:55 AM
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I mist firstly admit that I am a very negative person overall. But at this moment I am VERY worried about the game.


Never before has an expansion gathered THIS much hate across the board..
People everywhere are raging at MoP, and looking at the official Youtube video I think the dislikes are starting to win....


What are your thoughts?
People are naturally conservative and aren't ready for change, i generally dislike the panda side of it.

But in deep analysis this is designed to make gameplay and progression more varied which felt that it was too linear(not in terms of quests but more in terms of raids being you only way to progress in this game).

It's kinda like runescape where you have multiple lines of progress that are interconnect but can act separetely(various skills, minigames, combat arenas), of course in runescape there are so many angles you can progress that it becomes overwhelming
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:56 AM
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MoP haters:THIS SUCKS,KUNG FU PANDA RIP OFF,LOL BLIZZ GAME FOR KIDZ
MoP supporters:LOL GTFO HATERS,GOOD RIDDANCE LOLOL,BYE HATERS,GIMME UR STUFF WHEN U QUIT
This happens on every forum i check.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:02 AM
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i like MoP, don't care if so much people hate it. they will play it anyway. and if they don't...well not my loss.

and btw SOOOO MUCH people asked for pandas since WoW launched and now that we finally have some people are raging that they are stupid....

i understand why some of the stuff might be controversial like the pokemon thing or the new talent system but there is also other stuff: more pve content besides raiding and new interesting BG's.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:05 AM
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Statistically, Pandaren have been the most requested addition to World of Warcraft by a large margin. There's no problem, just a loud and angry minority.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:09 AM
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This is what is known as the internet hate machine. it happens. idc if people bitch, i have a feeling that MoP will bring some (not all) of the players cata lost. if not, that one year diablo 3 pass might coax lots to resub, for a year at least.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:14 AM
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I mist firstly admit that I am a very negative person overall. But at this moment I am VERY worried about the game.


Never before has an expansion gathered THIS much hate across the board..
People everywhere are raging at MoP, and looking at the official Youtube video I think the dislikes are starting to win....


What are your thoughts?
Most hate is for hating's sake. I understand some positions, like less instances, but overall the gameplay looks like it's going to be fantastic now.

Also, with the new talent trees, balance will be much more easier. Previous one were a mess, and one of the things I hated from the original game.

Those hating the lore are trolls or don't know about W3. We still don't know enough to see if it sucks or not.

Personally, I'm only disappointed at monk overlapping DH and Pandaria geography being too generic (continent is round). I may be angry with the lore when I get to know what's it about.

I don't like the neutral race, either. Screams "we were cheap to make 2 races", and I don't like the pacifist stance of the playable pandaren.

But the rest is fine, no matter part of it is a shameless copy of Pokémon and Warhammer Online.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:16 AM
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And really, the kind of people who are showing such an emotional and vitriolic response to a computer game expansion aren't exactly the kind of people I would want to play the game with anyway.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:20 AM
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:33 AM
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I don't like the neutral race, either. Screams "we were cheap to make 2 races"
Maybe they were cheap but i don't think so, they also added a new class. we only got two races or one class so far. now we have a new race and a new class (with all new animations). so its the same amount of work.

another thing: what could they have possibly added as another race? Pandas are the most requested race and i can't fathom anything that could compete with them. The whine from pandas being faction specific would be even more than it is now. Pandas now go both ways and we get a new class. for me it worked out quite well.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:48 AM
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Maybe they were cheap but i don't think so, they also added a new class. we only got two races or one class so far. now we have a new race and a new class (with all new animations). so its the same amount of work.

another thing: what could they have possibly added as another race? Pandas are the most requested race and i can't fathom anything that could compete with them. The whine from pandas being faction specific would be even more than it is now. Pandas now go both ways and we get a new class. for me it worked out quite well.
I don't like it, but I don't think it's wrong. I would have preferred 2 races because that's double the lore, but meh. Also, it's a class, not a hero class, so it probably won't get any special starting zone.

Naga or mantid would have made good races, for example.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:54 AM
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so it probably won't get any special starting zone.
a zone atop a turtle is not special enough?

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Naga or mantid would have made good races, for example.
but both of em are not pandas and not many people asked for them. they might be good idea but if you look at what race people have been asking for for a LONG time its pandas.

btw naga and mantid work better as villians than playable races.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:59 AM
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a zone atop a turtle is not special enough?
He's talking about the monk class and from what i've read until now only Pandaren get the turtlezone, not monks.
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