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Old 06-24-2015, 05:56 PM
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Warlock Patch 6.3 - Fantasies of Farahlon

There has to be a major content patch before Warlords of Draenor is finished right?

When the next expansion is announced at Blizzcon this year in November, normally there's still a few months of beta-testing left before the content is ready to ship. So without another patch in-between now and then, that's at least seven months of Hellfire Citadel before Q1 2016 and I can't believe Blizzard would let the payers stew that long fighting demons - it would be Icecrown Citadel all over again. And recently a developer (Mumper?) has already said that patch 6.1 shouldn't have been marketed as a major update as its content consisted mainly of small balancing tweaks and features that should have shipped with Warlords of Draenor.

So surely there has to be a patch 6.3, yes? And the only reasonable place left on Draenor for us to go is Farahlon because presumably its a zone that the world designers and artists have already worked on a bit. There hasn't been any new dungeons either post-expansion which is unusual, so either Blizzard's producers want to get WoD out the door as quickly as they can or there is more of Draenor to come. It would be too scandalous for Blizzard to be finished with the expansion right now, I don't think even Activision-Blizzard would be that short-sighted and greedy.

So are we calling it quits with Draenor after Archimonde or not? Because I don't want to be grinding demons for nearly a year before I can vacation in Tel Abim.
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:57 PM
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There has to be a major content patch before Warlords of Draenor is finished right?

When the next expansion is announced at Blizzcon this year in November, normally there's still a few months of beta-testing left before the content is ready to ship. So without another patch in-between now and then, that's at least seven months of Hellfire Citadel before Q1 2016 and I can't believe Blizzard would let the payers stew that long fighting demons - it would be Icecrown Citadel all over again. And recently a developer (Mumper?) has already said that patch 6.1 shouldn't have been marketed as a major update as its content consisted mainly of small balancing tweaks and features that should have shipped with Warlords of Draenor.

So surely there has to be a patch 6.3, yes? And the only reasonable place left on Draenor for us to go is Farahlon because presumably its a zone that the world designers and artists have already worked on a bit. There hasn't been any new dungeons either post-expansion which is unusual, so either Blizzard's producers want to get WoD out the door as quickly as they can or there is more of Draenor to come. It would be too scandalous for Blizzard to be finished with the expansion right now, I don't think even Activision-Blizzard would be that short-sighted and greedy.

So are we calling it quits with Draenor after Archimonde or not? Because I don't want to be grinding demons for nearly a year before I can vacation in Tel Abim.
Nah it's just another content drought.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:01 PM
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Well, there's a minimum of 5 months of beta testing for the next expansion. Even if the beta starts immediately after the announcement in November (which is itself not likely), we'd be looking at an April 2016 release date at best. That's 10 months of Hellfire Citadel. What's more likely is we'll see the beta start 2-4 months after BlizzCon, with a 12-14 month gap between 6.2 and the next expansion releasing, comparable to the wait between Siege of Orgrimmar and Warlords.

I would normally agree that there has to at least be a 6.3, with how barren this expansion's content release cycle has been thus far, but honestly, I'm not really sure any more. Blizzard has been very coy about this, only stating that there is "more story to tell". They've constantly asserted the idea that they want annual expansions (which means the beta for the next expansion would already have to be underway, so that idea is out). The fact that we haven't heard even a confirmation for 6.3 or 6.4 existing likely means they won't.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:03 PM
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6.2 makes it clear they want to be done with this expansion already.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:04 PM
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6.2 makes it clear they want to be done with this expansion already.
There's also the fact that 6.2 has 2 PVP seasons worth of gear in the files, and that Hellfire Citadel had end cinematics (which only the end tiers ever have). I'm not thinking a 6.3 or 6.4 is very likely, with those two things in mind.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:15 PM
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But Blizzard can't have players doing nothing for ten months. The producers wouldn't allow that because it could mean losing a million subscribers or more. Assuming it takes at least five months (a generous amount) before players have devoured all of 6.2's content, that's nearly half a year of nothing before 7.0. It would be two quarters of no growth or losses, they won't afford that.

Even if its just a few dungeons or a daily zone, there has to be more content left. Even the Ruby Dragonshrine was better than a few more months of Icecrown Citadel. Not unless the next expansion is far more developed at this stage than previous ones and will be ready to ship not long after Blizzcon - would could be possible, but sounds improbable.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:20 PM
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But Blizzard can't have players doing nothing for ten months. The producers wouldn't allow that because it could mean losing a million subscribers or more. Assuming it takes at least five months (a generous amount) before players have devoured all of 6.2's content, that's nearly half a year of nothing before 7.0. It would be two quarters of no growth or losses, they won't afford that.

Even if its just a few dungeons or a daily zone, there has to be more content left. Even the Ruby Dragonshrine was better than a few more months of Icecrown Citadel. Not unless the next expansion is far more developed at this stage than previous ones and will be ready to ship not long after Blizzcon - would could be possible, but sounds improbable.
But they have done exactly that for the last 3 expansions?

Yes, it's insane and nonsensical that they'd keep repeating these same mistakes and doing irreversible damage to their playerbase... but there's no evidence to suggest they're going to avoid it this time around. There's frankly more evidence to the contrary. It's horrible, but it's completely believable that we'll be in Hellfire Citadel for 10-14 months.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:21 PM
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But Blizzard can't have players doing nothing for ten months. The producers wouldn't allow that because it could mean losing a million subscribers or more. Assuming it takes at least five months (a generous amount) before players have devoured all of 6.2's content, that's nearly half a year of nothing before 7.0. It would be two quarters of no growth or losses, they won't afford that.

Even if its just a few dungeons or a daily zone, there has to be more content left. Even the Ruby Dragonshrine was better than a few more months of Icecrown Citadel. Not unless the next expansion is far more developed at this stage than previous ones and will be ready to ship not long after Blizzcon - would could be possible, but sounds improbable.
Blizzard has shown time and time again that they don't learn.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:23 PM
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But Blizzard can't have players doing nothing for ten months. The producers wouldn't allow that because it could mean losing a million subscribers or more.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:06 AM
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No Farahlon confirmed.
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:30 AM
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No Farahlon confirmed.
Noitora don't deceive people with such anti-Netherstorm prejudice.

Cory said that there was a lot of concept art and story ideas created for Farahlon but there wasn't a good opportunity to complete it then. "But does that mean we won't do it? Totally not." So while there likely won't be any new raids, 6.3 or some later patch could have Farahlon so that all the work they've done on the zone so far isn't wasted.
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Old 07-02-2015, 10:16 AM
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Old 07-02-2015, 11:53 PM
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They did a lot of work for Azjol-Nerub as well, and nothing has ever come of it.

Now would be the time to tell us about a 6.3 patch and they're making every air that it won't happen unless they deem it necessary. That says to me "filler patch" and if Farahlon isn't already in a shippable state I feel it's more likely that they would do something more like Ruby Sanctum, cribbing assets from x6 instead.
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The Farahlon zone is going to contain the wrapped up plot elements for Turalyon and Alleria. With Atiesh. And Stromgarde is somehow going to be displaced there.
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