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![]() Trade Baroness - Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006
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![]() Far better voice overs than the allied races have received.
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![]() So wait, Lilian has been granted authority over the Val'kyr?
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![]() Arch-Druid Join Date: Jan 2015
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![]() For this mission and on Sylvanas' authority, I guess.
Aradne hangs out above the ship docked in the harbor. Last edited by Feltongue; 04-20-2018 at 12:24 PM.. |
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![]() Elune Join Date: Aug 2010
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![]() Even though Aradne was killed at Andorhal lmao
Lots have happened over the past couple of days. - While I'm disappointed that Capital City is apparently destroyed in some way at the end of the scenario, at least it's a strong indication that the Horde will not be reversing this gain and that Tirisfal Glades has been reclaimed, along with presumably most of Western Lordaeron. Cities can be rebuilt. - Hey remember when everyone laughed at me for being excessively hostile to the poor set upon Horde? lmfao they're such fucking dicks this expansion. Garrosh wasn't an anomaly he was just early - Blizzard seems to be scrambling to retroactively give credibility to the "Humans rejected the Forsaken" bit but it doesn't look like many people are buying it at this point, especially in light of the fact that the Forsaken are more or less directly brainwashing people. I especially liked how after forcing undeath on Stone, they then claimed nobody would accept her and she has to be Horde now where her REAL friends are. It's almost more fucked up than just straight up mind controlling them Scourge style Come to think of it all this stuff with Voss and Drustvar is brain-breakingly hypocritical. So Voss repeatedly says that being undead isn't something people should want and that it makes people shun you, but is totally cool with inflicting undeath on people anyway, even though she says it's shitty. The more you think about it the stupider it gets. The Horde is totally broken at this point, even more than it always has been. It unironically looks like Blizzard is setting up doing away with the faction system by disbanding the Horde and folding it into the Alliance because I just don't see how the faction is even theoretically salvageable now.
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![]() Yeah that just about sums up all the faction stuff in BfA. I'm just going to hang out in Kul Tiras the entire expansion.
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![]() They were long gone from the Sunwell when they first became Void Elves.
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![]() Elune Join Date: Aug 2010
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![]() Seriously though Aradne still being around is triggering the hell out of me, someone tell Blizzard that she was killed at Andorhal because I'm 99% certain they just forgot.
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![]() They seem to be undoing a lot of our efforts in Cataclysm and the status of characters we presumably thought were dead. For example, in Hearthstone it turns out Godfrey was never killed, and that lore will most likely transfer over to WoW if Blizzard feels like he should be brought back.
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![]() Poor Amalia Stone. Had she only stayed with the Ashvane Company. Child labor is fine in war, after all.
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![]() they opened the portal that brought the monsters of the void to quelthalas that attacked the sunwell
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I do very much hope she is the dying elf in the picture of Sylvanas standing before Teldrassil. We don't need more depressing content, or characters that are harbingers of it. Into the spreadsheet it goes.
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You mean when Alleria touched the Sunwell and did not anticipate that it would cause Void portals to open up, and then went out of her way to help the Blood Elves and Nightborne close it back up? The Void Elves aren't involved anywhere at all in that and there's nothing saying they're responsible for any portals opening up from what I recall. Regardless, this does not excuse Liadrin for being a massive hypocrite and dropping all of her previously held values to become a Sylvanas fangirl. |
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That said, you’re right, none of this resolves the double standard of condemning The Ebon Hand but still serving Sylvanas. How vocal or devoted is her loyalty to the current War Chief? |
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And yeah, agreed. |
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![]() http://www.wowhead.com/news=283730/b...sting-spoilers
Wow, the Horde rounded up and killed civilians in Astranaar.
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(I'll try to explain with my limited vocabulary. "Moral" is not the exact right word, but it's the one I think fits best) Since Warcraft 3 I always found the Horde morally lacking. Thrall only went half the way with moralizing the Horde before he started to push faction pride. So, I was expecting the Horde to eventually degenerate as it grew more powerful, at least as something that makes sense in a gritty real-politik scenario. The events in WotLK, Cata, MoP and BfA kinda confirmed that suspicion. It's not the direction I'd like to go, but it's one that to me, makes some sense. The Horde is a failed experiment, a group that claimed to be moral before it truly embraced morality. It's a faction that grew hating and fearing its opposite. It made its very existance based on protecting itself from its opposite. So, whenever it sees itself in a position of retaliating, it does thinking everything they do is right, because everything the other faction does is wrong. If I were to have my way, I'd have made the Horde slowly grow beyond that fear of the Alliance after the Siege of Orgrimmar. Blizzard, instead, chose to move it in circles.
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![]() Even better the entirety of the Horde's newfound hatred for the Alliance seems to be based on them not liking the Alliance for being "smug" and "arrogant"
Like it's the pure embodiment of fuck you dad juvenile shit
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![]() Are you talking about Horde characters or Horde players now?
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![]() So since when is Sylvanas capable of raising the dead by herself, and how is she considered such a threat on her own that she manages to push back someone like Malfurion when she saves Saurfang? Am I misssing something here, because plot armor should only go so far.
Also I only just noticed this but they seem to put emphasis on the word 'Warchief' when they talk about the Horde and their attacks, which I'm not sure they did before, during Garrosh' reign. Good way to make her seem like a threatening future boss and make the rest of the Horde seem less guilty for what they're doing.
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![]() I wonder who thought that an undead high/blood elf claiming that the Horde is the better faction due to not containing humans was a good idea.
It's one thing to join the Horde out of necessity, but to actually prefer the company of orc, trolls and undead humans... ![]()
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![]() Hasn't she always been able to make skeletons since WC3? Also think that same ability is used when players attack her in-game.
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![]() Trade Baroness - Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006
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![]() I think most people forgot or think that's no longer canon, since she rarely if ever used it in WOW.
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