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Old 12-17-2016, 06:39 AM
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What we say about this guy tells more about ourselves than about him.

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I think we all should add the fact that warlocks are not necromancers to our signatures. Imagine how much would this poor soul get triggered.
It would be boring. Soon he would start calling SoL a forum of fools and liars who believe in liars.

I find his presence very constructive to my personal questionings, though. I often compare stuff to their original conceptions in WC1, WC2 and WC3 when I see them in the MMO, and that's the core of his entire logic: that anything added to Warcraft should walk along the same lines of the RTS content, which is why he is so frustrated with Lore Historians.

What he's saying in a non-verbal manner is "Lore Historians ruined Warlocks!", which is the very same thing a lot of other members of SoL say about things they like (Lordaeron, Orcs, The Horde, segregated factions, neutral factions, etc), except that those others say it verbally.

And of course, the other difference is that he refuses to accept that these guys are ruining Warlocks, so instead he goes the "THEY'RE LIARS" route, because he doesn't accept this retcon and declares these guys as incompetent to give segment to the original conception of Warlocks from the RTS.

Every time he shows up I question these things more and that makes me propose a question to SoL members: how much is he different from us? Is he THAT diffferent?
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:43 AM
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I don't think we ever verbally harassed Blizzard employees away from Twitter, or made them ignore us.
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All this faction bitching and people arguing with each other and it's Fojar of all people that comes in with reasonable positivity.
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Old 12-17-2016, 09:11 AM
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Warlocks are fine though.
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Old 12-17-2016, 09:52 AM
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this should be our collective sig.

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Old 12-17-2016, 12:02 PM
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What we say about this guy tells more about ourselves than about him.



It would be boring. Soon he would start calling SoL a forum of fools and liars who believe in liars.

I find his presence very constructive to my personal questionings, though. I often compare stuff to their original conceptions in WC1, WC2 and WC3 when I see them in the MMO, and that's the core of his entire logic: that anything added to Warcraft should walk along the same lines of the RTS content, which is why he is so frustrated with Lore Historians.

What he's saying in a non-verbal manner is "Lore Historians ruined Warlocks!", which is the very same thing a lot of other members of SoL say about things they like (Lordaeron, Orcs, The Horde, segregated factions, neutral factions, etc), except that those others say it verbally.

And of course, the other difference is that he refuses to accept that these guys are ruining Warlocks, so instead he goes the "THEY'RE LIARS" route, because he doesn't accept this retcon and declares these guys as incompetent to give segment to the original conception of Warlocks from the RTS.

Every time he shows up I question these things more and that makes me propose a question to SoL members: how much is he different from us? Is he THAT diffferent?
I think I'll start adding a spoiler hidden disclaimer saying "not supposed to be taken seriously" with every single post that is not supposed to be taken seriously.

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Old 12-17-2016, 12:58 PM
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I think I'll start a spoiler hidden disclaimer saying "not supposed to be taken seriously" with every single post that is not supposed to b e taken seriously.
I can't see why that post lacks the potential to be a serious post.
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:15 AM
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I can't see why that post lacks the potential to be a serious post.
That still doesn't mean it is supposed to be.
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Old 12-19-2016, 11:59 AM
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I don't think we ever verbally harassed Blizzard employees away from Twitter, or made them ignore us.
I'm pretty sure we never made our own Wiki either.
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure we never made our own Wiki either.
Wait what? Also technically we made a tvtropes page or something.
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:18 PM
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Wait what? Also technically we made a tvtropes page or something.
Here ya go
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:33 PM
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2016 people. 2016.
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Old 12-19-2016, 12:47 PM
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Holy shit.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:10 PM
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Divine shit.

Shit of Light.

Necrophotic edits that so it's not reliable. At least no the fel/Void/life sections I think.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:15 PM
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Skeletons are abominations, magical constructs made from the bones of the dead.[24] With Jeremy Feasel's own logic, he wouldn't say animated skeletons are considered dead because they're constructs. And if skeletons aren't dead and, by extension, undead, using magic to raise and control skeletons isn't necromancy. And if using magic to raise and control skeletons isn't necromancy, what is?
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Demonic power (or warlock magics) would be - or is - a necromantic power that exists in - and is derived from - the Twisting Nether because demons are from the Twisting Nether, which the Warcraft II establishes as the place where the spirits of the dead reside or the realm of the dead. Despite that fact, after he was asked if perhaps warlocks are harnessing their power from the Twisting Nether, the Blizzard Historian known as Sean Copeland stated, “No, that’d be magi, IIRC. They gain power by the destruction of another source (recall the undead warlock in original cinematic)“.[20] Additionally, the person stated that demons contain fel magic, but aren't the source, stating that the nature of this magic is created from destroying something else.[21][22] So not only is this person denying that warlocks harness their power from the place demons are from, he is also denying that demons are the source of fel energy, which Metzen describes as demonic energy. Basically, this person is claiming that a demonologist does not need to involve himself - or herself - with a demon in order to obtain demonic energy and that a demonologist does not harness their power from the place demons are from. And why is that? Why is the seemingly lying Sean Copeland denying that demons are the source of the demonologists' demonic energy and denying that demonologists harness their power from the place demons are from? Does he believe that demons and their demonic powers don't exist in the Twisting Nether? Or is it because warlocks are essentially magi who have dabbled in dark magic if their power is from the Twisting Nether?

Demonic power (or warlock magics) is a nether-touched power that exists in - and is derived from - the Twisting Nether because demons are from the Twisting Nether. Unsurprisingly, after he was asked if perhaps warlocks were harnessing their power from the Twisting Nether, the lying Blizzard Historian known as Sean Copeland stated, “No, that’d be magi, IIRC. They gain power by the destruction of another source (recall the undead warlock in original cinematic)"

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Old 12-19-2016, 03:10 PM
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Wait what? Also technically we made a tvtropes page or something.
Some should update our tvtropes page. And with "someone" I mean anyone but me 'cause I'm lazy.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:11 PM
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It's extra funny because 2/3 of the warlocks specs dont have anything to do with demons indeed (at least directly)
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:19 PM
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This is legendary.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:15 AM
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As much as it hurts... Necrophotic might be unto something here. Not saying he's right nor wrong, but the quest to " kill guld'an in nighthold" give you this :

http://www.wowhead.com/item=143757/h...shadow-council

Yes, you read like me. Shadowlands. The realm of the dead....
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Nothing, this is Scrolls of Lore, every conversation on here slowly distills down to Sylvanas, Lorderon or Worgen. I'm pretty sure that theres a mathematical truth to this.
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Old 12-24-2016, 05:19 AM
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As much as it hurts... Necrophotic might be unto something here. Not saying he's right nor wrong, but the quest to " kill guld'an in nighthold" give you this :

http://www.wowhead.com/item=143757/h...shadow-council

Yes, you read like me. Shadowlands. The realm of the dead....
How? It sure helps the argument that warlocks can also be necromancers, but I doubt anyone was at any point arguing about that. We were arguing that warlocks are not necromancers. That is a completely different thing.
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:47 AM
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How? It sure helps the argument that warlocks can also be necromancers, but I doubt anyone was at any point arguing about that. We were arguing that warlocks are not necromancers. That is a completely different thing.
Oh sure, this thread is so full of Necrophotic bullshit that I lost the first point of the debate after a few posts
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Nothing, this is Scrolls of Lore, every conversation on here slowly distills down to Sylvanas, Lorderon or Worgen. I'm pretty sure that theres a mathematical truth to this.
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