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![]() Sure, but I'd say that to become kindred spirits, you not only need a similar ideology, you also need similar goals. Say, there was this Czech fascist party during the 30s. Guess what, they were strongly opposed to the Reich, enough that there had to be another pro-German party set up once the situation demanded it. Why? They might have shared ideological background, but practical reasons made them antagonists.
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![]() AS a general rule extremes are bad but moderation isn't so bad.
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![]() Russia is just trying to exploit divisions that are already there.
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![]() Hence, despite not being fond of the Union's current structure and policies, I am not abolitionist but reformist.
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![]() Everyone is always exploiting weaknesses and divisions. What's somewhat scary and vexing is how successfully the Russkies have been doing it these past few years. After the refugee crisis and the political fallout that followed, as well as the invasion of Crimea just a year prior, people have been playing straight into Putin's hands.
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![]() The Union is just a structure. It's all about people, you need to replace those, yet to do that, you don't need to tear down everything. You don't need to demolish whole house for new furniture and facade.
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![]() I don't get it. Why did you post that quote?
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![]() Immigration is usually really political. The politicians want to bring in people who will vote for the policies they support. There are a lot better ways to help the refuges that aren't being taken like assisting the majority of the victims that are still in Iraq or Syria or the ones that fled to neighboring Arab countries.
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He clearly hated Europeans. You can't have a state that is supposed to serve a people that it hates. |
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![]() Not that I'm offended, but that's probably more fitting for the shitpost thread.
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![]() I don't see how you get that from that quote. It looks more like you're making an argument against miscegenation.
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Administrations, policies, outlooks, strategies, these all change gradually despite what some of the founders held dear. |
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Europe has been in better positions historically. Besides, the EU doesn't foster reform. |
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![]() He's only talking about race, though.
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![]() And? You can't have Western Civilization without whites.
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In any case, I simply stated I am reformist myself, not that you have to follow my lead. If you think the Union has to die, alright, it's your decision after all. |
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![]() http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKBN1852AF A common point amongst Lula's defenders are that his Prosecutor (Moro) is also the Judge of the process.
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