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Old 05-08-2015, 02:06 PM
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I'll give you Khadgar, but what's this about Draenei paladins? What have they even done during this expansion?

Besides, you're leaving out lots of other events.
Nobody gives a shit what happens in Frostfire Ridge.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:06 PM
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That's not exactly true though.

The vision Velen was given, that showed the plan, was the deciding factor. It's what crushed the Horde, not so much the Alliance. The Naaru, and Velen's sacrifice, is what made that possible.

The Alliance wasn't so much involved with that as much as the player.
Really, guy? Really? Thats what youre going with? Thats some prime alliance justice warrior sh!t right there.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:07 PM
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Nobody gives a shit what happens in Frostfire Ridge.
Talador, Nagrand, Arak and Gorgrond don't count?
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:10 PM
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Talador, Nagrand, Arak and Gorgrond don't count?
Let's see, Talador is a bunch of Draenei stuff, Nagrand is the only place that works because lolThrall, Arak has the whole Admiral Taylor thing that makes no sense to have the Horde doing, and nothing happens in Gorgrond.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:11 PM
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Handclaw what is that new icon of yours. Is that one of your fanmakes of Cho'gal?
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:12 PM
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Handclaw what is that new icon of yours. Is that one of your fanmakes of Cho'gal?
Aye. It's something I'm working on right now.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:17 PM
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Let's see, Talador is a bunch of Draenei stuff, Nagrand is the only place that works because lolThrall, Arak has the whole Admiral Taylor thing that makes no sense to have the Horde doing, and nothing happens in Gorgrond.
Have you forgotten the Sunsworn? I'm pretty sure that Talador is the one zone where cooperation is canon.

Taylor's garrison is just one quest-line.

I'd say that the Alliance dealt with the jungle, saving dwarves, and the Horde with the giants. (Redxar & Nazgrel)
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:20 PM
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Have you forgotten the Sunsworn? I'm pretty sure that Talador is the one zone where cooperation is canon.
The Sunsworn were shoehorned in just like the rest of the Horde.

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Taylor's garrison is just one quest-line.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:22 PM
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The Sunsworn were shoehorned in just like the rest of the Horde.
How?
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:25 PM
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How?
Because they don't have any reason to be there aside from "designated Horde representatives." The Draenei are there because its their land, their cities, and their spirits being desecrated. The Blood Elves are there because they need a Horde race to be there.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:28 PM
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Because they don't have any reason to be there aside from "designated Horde representatives." The Draenei are there because its their land, their cities, and their spirits being desecrated. The Blood Elves are there because they need a Horde race to be there.
Actually the Blood Elves are there because they owe the Draenei so much.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:28 PM
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The Sunsworn were shoehorned in just like the rest of the Horde.
Believe me, I'd rather have seen Alliance paladins, but they're still canon. Considering how neutral the Draenei are, there's no reason why both factions couldn't simply have worked with neutral Draenei.

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So?
So there's no reason to believe that everything that happened in Arak was done by Alliance heroes, just like not everything that happened in Nagrand has to have been the work of Horde heroes?
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:37 PM
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Actually the Blood Elves are there because they owe the Draenei so much.
Yes it's a shame that doesn't translate to literally any of their conduct except in this very specific case where a Horde representative just happened to be needed by Blizzard.

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Believe me, I'd rather have seen Alliance paladins, but they're still canon. Considering how neutral the Draenei are, there's no reason why both factions couldn't simply have worked with neutral Draenei.
Why would neutral Draenei call on the hairy assholes whom they are currently fighting instead of follow Draenei in the Alliance?

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So there's no reason to believe that everything that happened in Arak was done by Alliance heroes, just like not everything that happened in Nagrand has to have been the work of Horde heroes?
Oh, and also, basically all quests seem to imply a level of selflessness and altruism that Horde player characters don't have.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:39 PM
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Why would neutral Draenei call on the hairy assholes whom they are currently fighting instead of follow Draenei in the Alliance?
They've shown that they don't mind working with Orcs, and don't have much reason to distrust the Horde.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:42 PM
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They've shown that they don't mind working with Orcs, and don't have much reason to distrust the Horde.
The draenei in Talador are somewhat hostile to the Horde. All the auchenai except Nyami, Tulaani, and Maladar are neutral instead of friendly and can't be spoken to or interacted with by Horde characters (likewise Alliance players can't interact with the blood elf NPCs who appear neutral while the draenei are friendly), who must use blood elf npc equivalents for repairs/vendors and stuff. Also the horde version of the Aruuna quests end with the draenei guards nearly attacking the player until the questgiver convinces the guards to let you leave in peace.

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Old 05-08-2015, 02:42 PM
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What are we arguing about?

Fojar is wrong regardless of what it is.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:43 PM
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Why would neutral Draenei call on the hairy assholes whom they are currently fighting instead of follow Draenei in the Alliance?
Because they aren't fighting the Horde? Because they've already done it with the Shadowmoon exiles? Because the hairy apes simply offered their help, without needing to be asked?
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:44 PM
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Really, guy? Really? Thats what youre going with? Thats some prime alliance justice warrior sh!t right there.
Is it wrong?

I mean, we know what happens if Yrel and the Player didn't go forth and stop the Dark Naaru.

Everyone would have died. The Dark Naaru then gives you and 3 other people a nuke that kills mobs and mobs in seconds.

Without the Naaru on the Goat side, the Iron Horde destroyed the Alliance AND Draenei forces, as you, the player ,took place in the vision.

The Alliance lost without help.

I'm not arguing that the Alliance doesn't come off as more funded.

I AM arguing that bladespire is a pretty shitty example.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:08 PM
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The Blackrock Orcs in WoD were the best shot at a stable Horde.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:11 PM
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They've shown that they don't mind working with Orcs, and don't have much reason to distrust the Horde.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:19 PM
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The Blackrock Orcs in WoD were the best shot at a stable Horde.
Blackhand is best Warlord.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:22 PM
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Hmm, Kormrok has a son who is a gronnling. My theory that the magnaron are just the final stage in the gronn life cycle might be true!
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:42 PM
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Aye. It's something I'm working on right now.

It looks really cool. Wish Blizzard had spent time on a new Cho'gall model..
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At this point, I agree.

Blizzard effectively wants to have its cake and eat it too by pretending to have this groundbreaking war in a faction capital while at the same time being completely unwilling to portray logical consequences of such an event.

Faction war can be done well, but Blizzard has half assed it and it has predictably flopped as a result.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:51 PM
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Blackhand is best Warlord.
Khadgar best waifu.
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:52 PM
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I just noticed that the Shattered Hand only has male members. Did the ogres have no female gladiators?

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Khadgar best waifu.
Khadgar is cool with cucumbers.
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