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Old 07-04-2011, 05:31 PM
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She won, you need to wake up and smell the music, or ehh i don't know how that saying goes.

But the orcs lost simple enough and this has been explained.
In the Alliance questline. The Horde story has them throwing back the attackers handily.
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Old 07-04-2011, 06:23 PM
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How are those area's useless to alliance?
read the post, no resources. Dustwallow is a swamp, durotar is a barren desert and the Barrens is...still mostly a barren savannah. They're hardly top real-estate. Great, you've got a camp there, it will still be impossible for the Alliance to beat the Horde in those areas because they continually have to ship reinforcements and resources there, even just to maintain it.
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Old 07-04-2011, 06:36 PM
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read the post, no resources. Dustwallow is a swamp, durotar is a barren desert and the Barrens is...still mostly a barren savannah. They're hardly top real-estate. Great, you've got a camp there, it will still be impossible for the Alliance to beat the Horde in those areas because they continually have to ship reinforcements and resources there, even just to maintain it.
How do they have no resources? Are you just trying to discredit alliance victories?
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Old 07-04-2011, 06:59 PM
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Are you just trying to jump to conclusions?
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:04 PM
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In the Alliance questline. The Horde story has them throwing back the attackers handily.
Except both versions are canon, the Alliances goal was not to raise Stonard or to occupy it only remove it's ability to fight which they did. Maybe you should read the Alliance version, then it would make sense.

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As far as Stonard goes, yeah the Alliance won, but they really seem to win a rather useless area with a rather weak opponent(mostly scouts and guards). That seems to go for most fights engaged by the Alliance really. They seem to attack at crappy locations that really have no gain for them in terms of resources(S. Barrens, Stonard, Durotar,..). It really seems to be quite a logistical nightmare to set up a base there and continually having to send resources over. Atleast the Horde attacks zones like Gilneas,Ashenvale, Hillsbrad etc. where resources are plenty and where the encampments can be made with the wood in the area.
Southern Barrens is not a useless area, the Barrens are right in the middle of the humans and night elves so it would be a valuable trade rout. Then we also know that there are mines or at least one mine we don't know what is taken out in game scale in the area.

The the Swamp of Sorrows was assaulted to protect their resource rich zones, I also would imagine that the humans could begin using the port to resupply ships. I would also imagine there to be a lot of game in the area swell as wood.
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Old 07-04-2011, 08:35 PM
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In the Alliance questline. The Horde story has them throwing back the attackers handily.
They probably interpreted the Alliance pulling back as themselves driving the Alliance forces out.

He does say that if they're going to have any chance they need to talk to the scouts, hence the traveling to other NPCs for reports.

I just wish we'd actually lost the thing, and swapped Stonard for a bunker or Zep tower on the coast.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:57 AM
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As far as resources are concerned, I've always wondered why the Horde never deforested the Dry Hills in the northwestern Barrens near the Rampart. Would have been a good excuse to drive off those pesky harpies once and for all.

And as big as the Nesingwary family and friends have become in Azeroth and beyond, it seems like safaris/hunting expeditions and other sorts of exotic tourism would be happening all over the Barrens. That could turn into big business for the landowners of the Barrens.
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Old 07-05-2011, 08:57 AM
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As far as resources are concerned, I've always wondered why the Horde never deforested the Dry Hills in the northwestern Barrens near the Rampart. Would have been a good excuse to drive off those pesky harpies once and for all.

And as big as the Nesingwary family and friends have become in Azeroth and beyond, it seems like safaris/hunting expeditions and other sorts of exotic tourism would be happening all over the Barrens. That could turn into big business for the landowners of the Barrens.
Presumably the dry hills are filled with dry trees that make very poor construction material.
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:27 AM
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Presumably the dry hills are filled with dry trees that make very poor construction material.
Brittle flammable building materials, how perfect for fortification and building construction during a war. Why don't they just douse it in gasoline and give the enemy a lit match.

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As far as resources are concerned, I've always wondered why the Horde never deforested the Dry Hills in the northwestern Barrens near the Rampart. Would have been a good excuse to drive off those pesky harpies once and for all.

And as big as the Nesingwary family and friends have become in Azeroth and beyond, it seems like safaris/hunting expeditions and other sorts of exotic tourism would be happening all over the Barrens. That could turn into big business for the landowners of the Barrens.
Why cut down 50 small shitty quality trees for lumber when you can cut down a single giant strong magical tree a short walk away and yield the same amount.

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Old 07-05-2011, 03:27 PM
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Presumably the dry hills are filled with dry trees that make very poor construction material.
This is my suspicion as well. There's just not too many reliable places for lumber in central Kalimdor, which is mostly deserts, wastelands, and savannah.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:33 PM
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Brittle flammable building materials, how perfect for fortification and building construction during a war. Why don't they just douse it in gasoline and give the enemy a lit match.
Sorta like the Tauren?
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:42 PM
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Sorta like the Tauren?
And look what happened to camp Taurajo.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:46 PM
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I wonder where the tauren got all of the wood for that gate of theirs.
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:10 PM
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I wonder where the tauren got all of the wood for that gate of theirs.
A druid did it.
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Old 07-05-2011, 04:16 PM
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I wonder where the tauren got all of the wood for that gate of theirs.
noticed all the trees in mulgore? no? my point exactly :p
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:41 AM
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A little off-topic, but if you like Worgen or good music you might like this song here.

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Old 07-09-2011, 08:46 AM
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A little off-topic, but if you like Worgen or good music you might like this song here.

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Old 07-09-2011, 08:48 AM
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Yeah, I've heard of that. Thought it was well-made but a bit cheesy, so I posted the original.
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