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Old 07-07-2016, 11:59 AM
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If I mail Blizzard a crisp five dollar bill and a hand written letter, do you think it'll convince them to add Mekkatorque next?

Also before any other Warcraft characters are added they should add in a troll or draenei character instead of another elven variant.
The next two WarCraft heroes are Za'muro (Orc) and Varian (Human), almost for sure.

As for Widowmaker... eh... they'd have two buxom long-ranged burst assassins. I don't know that, that would work. There's certainly other heroes I'd like to see first.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:05 PM
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Yeah problem with widowmaker isnt kit. They could comeup with something, hell even Chromie's kit would work. Problem is everything else. What skins is she gonna get post launch? Nova rejects?
One of Widowmaker's skins could be a Nova skin. I think such parallel skins are cool.

Hopefully Gul'dan has some Azmodan-ish skin, for example.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:24 PM
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One of Widowmaker's skins could be a Nova skin. I think such parallel skins are cool.

Hopefully Gul'dan has some Azmodan-ish skin, for example.
so she'd look just like camoless Nova standing in a slightly different position? I dont think thats a good idea and even if it was, what else? Nova rejects? appearance, personality and archetype wise they're nigh identical.
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Old 07-07-2016, 10:02 PM
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That's true, Widowmaker and Nova epitomize the silhouette problem.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:31 AM
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The next two WarCraft heroes are Za'muro (Orc) and Varian (Human), almost for sure.
Is there any evidence pointing to that?
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:06 AM
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Is there any evidence pointing to that?
There apparently was a leak on 4chan by a user named axolotl(I think?) which was pretty much correct so far, including even skins and mount that have been revealed.
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Old 07-08-2016, 08:11 AM
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Yep, he posted May 12th

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Gul'dan - probably around the movie release. His main trait is sacrificing life to do extra damage, then stealing life

Samuro - blademaster with stealth

Auriel - D3 angel with a resurrect ally ability

Varian - typical WoW warrior build with charge, taunt and a cleanse

skins: Volleyball Li-Ming, Mystic Kingdom Arthas, Mechalord Gazlowe

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Illusion dancer
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Other heros that are being worked on but probably not going to be released any time soon:
Shandris
Valerian
Varimathras
Ragnaros
Mengsk
Maiev
Imperius
Gromm
Garrosh
Brann
Baal
Alleria
Deckard Cain
Rocknroll Racer
Selendis
Stukov
Vashj
Tosh
Moira
Varian
Belial
Deathwing
Ghom
Cydaea
Zul'jin
Auriel
Zarya
Aidan

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Old 07-08-2016, 12:16 PM
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I haven't seen that leak, thanks. Some of those heroes sound pretty cool but I don't see Kel'Thuzad on that list which is kind of a bummer.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:47 PM
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What would Kel'thuzad's niche be? Raising undead was already taken by Xul. There's no real lack of ranged assassins either.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:25 PM
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What would Kel'thuzad's niche be? Raising undead was already taken by Xul. There's no real lack of ranged assassins either.
True, and there already 2 frost-based WC heroes so there's not much he can bring to the table, i'm afaraid.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:13 PM
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Multiple frost bolt, mana detonation, shadow fissure, frost blast, chains of kel'thuzad, frost nova, frost armor, dark ritual, death and decay, summon guardians of ice crown...

Yeah totally all he does is summon skeletons, no diversity in mechanics with a lich at all.
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Old 07-08-2016, 03:16 PM
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Multiple frost bolt, mana detonation, frost blast, shadow fissure, frost blast, chains of kel'thuzad, frost nova, frost armor, dark ritual, death and decay, summon guardians of ice crown...

Yeah totally all he does is summon skeletons, no diversity in mechanics with a lich at all.
It's not like one can be creative or something to create an interesting kit/playstyle for someone, right?
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It's not like one can be creative or something to create an interesting kit/playstyle for someone, right?
Right, two heroes use guns, all the roles for guns are taken already nothing else can be done.

If I had to design a kit for him with his above established abilities;

I'd combine multiple frost bolt to do a spray shot of 5. Upgrade to frost blast causing the middle target to be frozen and block attacks for a couple seconds. Upgrade to more volley, upgrade for slow.

Mana detonation has potential but chains would also be neat

I'd combine frost shield and let that get buffed with consuming your friendly mobs with dark ritual to provide more shields. Upgrade to release frost nova no destruction, upgrade to damage aura when full.

Death and decay ultimate, upgrade to grasping skeletal hands, upgrade to lingering damage.

Or

Summon guardians of ice crown, two basic crypt fiends that protect him. Upgrade to crypt lords, upgrade to also summon some wraiths.

That's just with his established abilities. You could literally make up anything.
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:31 PM
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Since Activision owns blizzard and Crash Bandicoot, could it be possible to bring Crash Bandicoot into this game as a guest character?
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:53 PM
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The Lich's kit is totally distinct from Jaina's. And it's absolutely nothing like Gul'dan's or Xul's. Kel'thuzad wasn't even a necromancer in WC3.

I came up with a whole kit for him that was unique, suited his WC3 kit, and made a lot of sense. Made him into a support (which is what the Lich was in WC3 and DotA).

The issue now is more that Gul'dan's kind usurped some of the mechanics I gave him, and that Xul kind of overlapped with him a TINY bit.
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Since Activision owns blizzard and Crash Bandicoot, could it be possible to bring Crash Bandicoot into this game as a guest character?
He'd have to guest star in a Blizzard game first.

I vote Lost Vikings gets a game that tours other settings.
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Old 07-09-2016, 02:24 AM
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What would Kel'thuzad's niche be? Raising undead was already taken by Xul. There's no real lack of ranged assassins either.
Because he was "work in progress" since Blizzcon'14.



And why he should be ranged assassins? o_O He obviously should be specialist/support or a new type of hero.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:26 AM
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I'm starting to become more and more keen towards the idea of a Shadow Priest hero, maybe Moira would fit that really well?
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:14 AM
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I'm so here for that. She could wield Xal'athat too
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Old 10-04-2016, 11:55 AM
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I bet Demon-Lord Alarak diablo style skin would fit well.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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The way Varian is designed makes me think they could do something similar with Vol'jin, maybe make him a ranged assassin that can swap to being a support.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:28 PM
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The way Varian is designed makes me think they could do something similar with Vol'jin, maybe make him a ranged assassin that can swap to being a support.
Hell yes

Voljin deserved better and HotS is the only place he'll get it now
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:17 AM
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meanwhile...

> be me
> have Heroes Of The Storm be the only Blizzard game you'd be willing to pay for at this point
> no Hammer skin in forever
> only skin that actually makes her look different is an Iron Horde model
> reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Tankless Hammer Model when? Have her use a big-ol' fuckyou mortar that she needs to set up and give her a jetpack as mount as an excuse to keep the idiotic no-mount-except-she-sits-in-one mechanic. Give me Devastator Marine Hammer! Give me meatwagon undead Hammer! I'm sure there's a tank-style vehicle in Overhype to use. Give us Hammer players SOME LOVE. That we need to pay for.

I'll just stick with frostblue/white standard Hammer then...
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meanwhile...

> be me
> have Heroes Of The Storm be the only Blizzard game you'd be willing to pay for at this point
> no Hammer skin in forever
> only skin that actually makes her look different is an Iron Horde model
> reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Tankless Hammer Model when? Have her use a big-ol' fuckyou mortar that she needs to set up and give her a jetpack as mount as an excuse to keep the idiotic no-mount-except-she-sits-in-one mechanic. Give me Devastator Marine Hammer! Give me meatwagon undead Hammer! I'm sure there's a tank-style vehicle in Overhype to use. Give us Hammer players SOME LOVE. That we need to pay for.

I'll just stick with frostblue/white standard Hammer then...
Need her in a dwarf siege tank.
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Old 11-17-2016, 11:12 AM
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Need her in a dwarf siege tank.
I'd be game for just about anything. But knowing Blizzard's love of trolling me it's probably going to be some kind of trollish siegeweapon.
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