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Old 08-14-2009, 07:29 PM
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Default I'm Calling MMO-Champion's Bluff.

I'm sure all of you have read the news by now.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=92919.0


I have nothing against MMO-champion. Boubouille has been a great source of information for many years and I wish him no ill will, nor do I wish to vilify him. However, this "leak" is, as my senses tell me, bullshit. First of all, let's look at his source.


A private post on Something Awful. The trolliest of troll sites, the creme de la creme of bullshit. Perhaps you've heard of the "Goon Squad"? That's there home base. All of the information posted in that thread seems very, VERY familiar.


As in, it is all theories that have been posted by various, unrelated posters right here on SoL (and some crazy theories that go against the lore- Thrall as the next Guardian of Tirisfal? Someone's not reading the monthly WoW comic). Baine replacing Carin? Happened here. Thousand needles being flooded? Sounds kinda RobLore (literally). Hell, I even remember some people theorizing the level cap will be 85 rather than 90, right here.

I am not claiming credit for these ideas- in fact, SO many sound familiar I would appreciate very much if you could actually CITE these for me (I shall start scouring our very forums to do the same). SoL has, very recently, come to the forefront of the Warcraft lore community, in no small part thanks to Handclaw and his discovery of both the new races and classes. For that, I am thankful. And I do not claim MMO-Champ "stole" these ideas from us- rather, the poster on Something Awful did, compiling a bunch of ideas he found on this very forum and presenting them as a "leak". Unfortunately, MMO-Champion, be it Boubouille or someone else, did not fact-check, and basically fell for some epic troll bait. It happens to the best of us- and this will be proven either right or wrong in a week, but I'd bet my money that this isn't a "blizzard leak", but someone who reads SoL.


Who's with me?

EDIT: Guys, guys, do not get angry. Do not flame, do not troll. I must state that I wish NO ILL WILL on MMO-Champion. All I am saying is that I believe their "source" is faulty, and I think we have enough proof here to prove them wrong. I do this not in an attempt to "upstage them", rather, to make sure that only the TRUTH is reported on.

EDIT PART DEUX: Here's my first tidbit against MMO champ. THIS thread by sift is the originator of the "switch between human and worgen" ability that Boub's post talks about. I have not seen anyone else mention this ability and I am pretty sure that it originated from Sift's imagination.

EDIT PART TREI: Source for the flooding of thousand needles and the bisecting of central Kalimdor courtesy of RobLore.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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You can count me in. Something is fishy with this info and it does not smell good.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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I am. Well, not necessarily someone who reads SoL, but definately at least mostly fake.

Anyway, this doesn't even make grammatical sense;
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Because a real source would obviously check their grammar.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:36 PM
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Yea, and when I tried to explain where it was wrong, I was permabanned from their forum for " spreading rumors as facts" You can appreciate the irony.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:38 PM
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Those fucks tried to take the credit for handclaw's discovery.

Man, to think what our one artist friend started.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:41 PM
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Who knows... They are feeding the masses with their information and if your not from their staff and try to correct things ( that won't get read because of the tons of comment and post ) you get permabanned, not banned one or two hours, permabanned...

THIS IS MADNESS LOL.

I loved their news, I hate them now. They are above people apparently.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:48 PM
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Wulfang reporting for duty. Grab your torches and pitchforks and let's get this show on the road.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:51 PM
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Guys, guys, do not get angry. Do not flame, do not troll. I must state that I wish NO ILL WILL on MMO-Champion. All I am saying is that I believe their "source" is faulty, and I think we have enough proof here to prove them wrong. I do this not in an attempt to "upstage them", rather, to make sure that only the TRUTH is reported on.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:51 PM
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I tried to report the "truth" at least what we have as supposition here that seems the most plausible, I get banned.

So well, censorship runs high. And I doubt we will have a discussion with them. But they came and read here apparently.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:55 PM
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I tried to report the "truth" at least what we have as supposition here that seems the most plausible, I get banned.

So well, censorship runs high. And I doubt we will have a discussion with them. But they came and read here apparently.
I sent boubouille an email. Hopefully he will read it.
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Old 08-14-2009, 07:58 PM
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Those fucks tried to take the credit for handclaw's discovery.

Man, to think what our one artist friend started.


Such fine Moderator behaviour you show. Anyhow they obviously just wanted the clicks after we had like 600 visitors on the boards, but now? Only above 120 showed up here since MMO-champion decided to "announce the expansion" just like that, its only gonna do damage to them but you know, noones gonna care in the end, its all about getting the cool stuff.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:02 PM
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I sent boubouille an email. Hopefully he will read it.
Well I don't care if I get unbanned or not, I wasn't posting that much on their board anyway, that just pissed me off to have a permaban just for " spreading rumors as facts", that didn't even needed a permaban

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Old 08-14-2009, 08:08 PM
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To be fair, they never said the Something Awful post was confirmed. I still believe the other stuff they posted, but yeah, the SA part was pure bullshit.

And yes, I did notice it's very similar to stuff that has been posted here recently as well.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:08 PM
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Well I don't care if I get unbanned or not, I wasn't posting that much on their board anyway, that just pissed me off to have a permaban just for " spreading rumors as facts", that didn't even needed a permaban

( Thank you anyway ^^)
I sent the email before he got the permaban anyway. I want to hear Boub's take on the situation, why he considers SA a legit source.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:09 PM
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Just to clarify, we are talking about the SA information, right? Not the original information from the WoW: Cataclysm article posted earlier?


EDIT: The flooding of thousand needles was a part of Rob's Ellemay idea, maybe in the Cataclysm is not a wow expansion thread.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:11 PM
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Just to clarify, we are talking about the SA information, right? Not the original information from the WoW: Cataclysm article posted earlier?
No, I'm talking most of, if not all of the information posted in this post, except the part about adding new classes to old races, since MMO-Champ was actually the first site to discover it and has proper information, sources and leads. The other stuff, about the changes to the old world, is bullshit.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:23 PM
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I believe that Boub bevlieves he's right, he wouldn't just post bullshit if he didn't belive it to be true.

Quoting SA made me not belive it tbh, but we'll see in 7days
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:28 PM
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Such fine Moderator behaviour you show.
Are you like, hiding behind every corner waiting to rip off my policeman badge and run away laughing or something?

Suck my dick in October.

I suggest you get over your aversion for 'naughty words that momma told me not to say'.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:30 PM
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So wow, they incorporated the Something Awful stuff into the main post. That's retarded.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:32 PM
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It really is something awful.

I can't wait for the hype to blow over. Really, I don't see any connections to Tauren paladins or Night Elf magi springing up because of a few new quests.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:35 PM
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One of the few pieces of information put forth in that post I believe is the possibility of new classes being added to old reasons, for reasons I've discussed before. Other than that? Snowball's chance in hell.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:37 PM
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Ok, boub just integrated the SA stuff into the main post and called in confirmed.


I'm in. we're combing the forums.

EDIT:http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...?t=4773&page=3

the source of the thousand needles' submergance and the splitting of Kalimdor, posted by rob.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:44 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:45 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Me, or Something Awful? I'm quite serious about this post, my friend.
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Me, or Something Awful? I'm quite serious about this post, my friend.
SA brah.
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