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Old 08-22-2016, 11:05 PM
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Again. less intrusive doesn't necessarily mean easier. Take as an example the brewmaster monk's special delivery. Instead of having a cast bar, you actually see the barrel being flung into the air and that gives you an idea of when it is going to fall down and cause damage.

Thats an interesting design choice because it maintains clarity whilst not using intrusive elements like another timed cast bar on top of the already cluttered UI.

Everything DBM warns about should be "special delivered".
That's really neat unless the ground is covered in void zones and adds scuttling about while some roided out monstrosity mauls your face.
Not to mention Special Delivery is one of those "here's a neat passive to compliment your active playstyle, enjoy free damage" talent and you'll notice most of them don't have big screen filling bars or animations (Frozen Pulse would be another example).

I'd gladly timewalk you back to Heroic Will of the Emperor and Durumu.

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Wait a minute... they're removing DB- nah I'm not gonna do that joke.

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I'd enjoy them a lot more if I didn't feel utterly gimped outside Voidform :I

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Old 08-23-2016, 04:05 AM
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plz move the goalpost more


lots of addons borrow from each other, and those features being removed from dbm mean they are being removed from all those other addons that no one gives a fuck about

but its still missing the point that my post was clearly about them removing the necessity for addons for raiding
They are absolutely not. This is where you completely lose the plot.
What they are removing is addons that essentially play the game for you on encounters, as in directly pointing you to where you have to stand.

As an example: radar function isn't broken in 7.1. You will still have a radar that shows if you are in range of someone. However, you won't be able to see WHO or WHAT is standing in range anymore, and what EFFECT is on them - which is what led to the creation of functions like the Archy laser beam tracker, which effectively trivialized the mechanic.

DBM has had many other essential functions of tracking and informing about mechanics, timers, etc for close to a decade. None of that is being touched. And none of it will be any less essential for raiding.

These functions were fairly new and only implemented once people realized what was possible within the addon framework. The mechanics they were designed to counter were not designed with an addon in mind to help do it, at all.

In essence, nothing is changing for 99.9% of raid addons and raiders.
People that weren't using ERT on very specific Mythic encounters will not notice a thing.
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Old 08-23-2016, 04:12 AM
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Throne of Thunder was the perfect LFR raid, by which I mean it was hilariously counter-intuitive, the instructions were not at all clear, and everyone died all the time. I did each of its wings the week they became available, and it was a precious pearl of perfection. I especially liked Durumu's "The safe path isn't visible at your graphic settings" and Lei Shen's "No, no, no, this is the one boss where you're actually supposed to stand in the crackling, damaging lightning pits. Shame we taught your for years not to do that."

The giant snail mobs were a nice extra. Those things killed more people than some bosses.
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Old 08-23-2016, 04:15 AM
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ToT was indeed brilliant.
My gf got annoyed at me after a while for always having a laughing fit when Durumu killed 90% of LFR. "WTF? bug!"
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Old 08-23-2016, 05:23 AM
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ToT is also perfect for being the best raid to date.
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Old 08-23-2016, 05:28 AM
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So any new pre-Legion quests today or was that it until launch?
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Old 08-23-2016, 06:40 AM
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So any new pre-Legion quests today or was that it until launch?
There should be more today.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:55 AM
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So any new pre-Legion quests today or was that it until launch?
Should be the demon attack on Dalaran.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:27 AM
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Should be the demon attack on Dalaran.
Looking forward to this, it was such a weird point to hang on... "Thanks for the ugly low level gloves dudes, Oh look theres an invasion... but it provides no reward participating... see ya"

I figured it would be up already.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:36 AM
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This whole invasion thing sounds neat, so I'm resubscribing early.

Any advice?
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:38 AM
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This whole invasion thing sounds neat, so I'm resubscribing early.

Any advice?
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:39 AM
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Well my PC crashed during the questline and I had just turned in the final quest PC crashed and now Im stuck with nothing Dalaran is still over DWP fucking a
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:51 AM
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Well my PC crashed during the questline and I had just turned in the final quest PC crashed and now Im stuck with nothing Dalaran is still over DWP fucking a
I heard that happens to noobs :^)
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:56 AM
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That was a pretty quick couple of quests. Felt like there should be more to it. If you talk to Khadgar after he says "Protect the city from the Legion, or use your map to find an invasion to stop." as if protecting the city did anything.
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Old 08-23-2016, 10:58 AM
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Next week is just Teleportation stuff and artifacts.

so this was all the quests we get from the Pre event Lolz.

also I realize now that i have all classes at max level how FEW classes there are

And you wont have flying in a week.

oh yeah say hello to garrison 2.0

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Old 08-23-2016, 11:13 AM
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This whole invasion thing sounds neat, so I'm resubscribing early.

Any advice?
If you're using them to level, tag the big guys and run away so you don't get one shot.

If you want the equip/transmog, simply fly into the zone and afk till it's done.

If you want to actually participate, prepare for lots of random one-shots and repair bills. Finding a vehicle can help mitigate this somewhat.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:15 AM
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Also you don't get XP if you kill a miniboss while piloting a vehicle.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:16 AM
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Also you don't get XP if you kill a miniboss while piloting a vehicle.
really? I get xp that way.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:20 AM
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really? I get xp that way.
Same. Grim's vehicle was just greedy and kept the exp for itself.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:24 AM
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I was riding a goblin shredder vehicle that blows fire, didn't get XP even though I was hitting the boss with it.
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Old 08-23-2016, 11:30 AM
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But those are only available to the horde.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:20 PM
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"The next stage in the World of Warcraft: Legion pre-expansion experience has begun! As of August 23, new quests involving Dalaran, the Council of Six, Jaina Proudmoore, Magni Bronzebeard, and Khadgar are underway."

Maybe they will be gated throughout the week? Very confusing.
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:25 PM
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But those are only available to the horde.
I was leveling Horde characters yeah.
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Old 08-23-2016, 01:13 PM
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"The next stage in the World of Warcraft: Legion pre-expansion experience has begun! As of August 23, new quests involving Dalaran, the Council of Six, Jaina Proudmoore, Magni Bronzebeard, and Khadgar are underway."

Maybe they will be gated throughout the week? Very confusing.
I have a new quest involving sealing "arcane anomalies" in Dalaran while the Legion attacks.
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Old 08-23-2016, 01:21 PM
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The quests this week are to put out some arcane anomalies and then stand by while Khadgar talks to Alodi. Next week we'll have one last quest to teleport to the Broken Isles.
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