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Old 09-29-2016, 08:32 PM
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Meh, I know a bunch of places no Arab fellow or UN employee would never find. Comrade internet shall reign supreme. It will be funny to see pc leftists complain about this when they pushed for it to happen in the first place.
Who wants this to happen and why?
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:37 PM
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Who wants this to happen and why?
Obama. To limit free speech and help make sure the future does not belong to those who slander the name of the prophet of Islam.

And by extension the UN.

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Old 09-29-2016, 09:37 PM
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Some people think the US is ebuls should we should handle over our power to the international community.
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:00 PM
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Obama. To limit free speech and help make sure the future does not belong to those who slander the name of the prophet of Islam.

And by extension the UN.
Well, I needed a good laugh.

Anyone else?
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:26 AM
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Who wants this to happen and why?
The people who wanted Anita and Zoe to speak at the UN for a more ''safer'' internet.
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Old 09-30-2016, 09:50 AM
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They should just go without those things if they want to take away freedom of speech. Tough shit if you want to censor thoughts you don't. I want to export my freedom of speech and expression because safe spaces are un-American.
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:40 AM
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UN wants to the censor the internet by making this the standard for website use:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWEza4ghNNg

No, forget all that. Your just being silly
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:58 AM
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Fearing the UN is sooo 90's.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:58 AM
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Fearing the UN is sooo 90's.
Only Dictators like the U.N.
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Old 09-30-2016, 12:04 PM
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Old 09-30-2016, 12:08 PM
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Only Dictators like the U.N.
I don't understand why.
The view on NY is fantastic and I hear the service is very good.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:42 PM
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And the Obama appointed judge struck down the injunction.

GG, internet, GG.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:02 PM
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''Broaden your world view today and subscribe to our internet service. Experience over 500 government approved websites at any moment at any time. Ignorance is bliss but together we can build a better world for the future. Sign in today.''

The future if you don't prevent it united statians.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:26 PM
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That WAS the stop. It gets handed over at midnight.

Congresd hasnt approved it.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:55 PM
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That WAS the stop. It gets handed over at midnight.

Congresd hasnt approved it.
Ehh I know the Chans and others aren't a fan of it and have been trying to push people to contact their reps.
Also, Rato is against it too so it might not pass?
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:02 PM
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Ehh I know the Chans and others aren't a fan of it and have been trying to push people to contact their reps.
Also, Rato is against it too so it might not pass?
It doesn't matter if it passes or not. That was, from my understanding, what the injunction was about.

They wanted a Judge to put a hold on the handoff for a lawsuit. The lawsuit would be over the fact that Congress didn't approve the hand off.

It's not a matter of Congress approving the hand off.

It's a matter of the Handoff is happening, regardless of what congress wants or not.
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:02 PM
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The lawsuit was about the authority of the President's office to take this decision.
It was at best a long shot.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:19 AM
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The lawsuit was about the authority of the President's office to take this decision.
It was at best a long shot.
I mean, the Presidents office DOESN'T have the authority to make that decision.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:27 AM
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Hmm, I still don't think it's a good idea but at least it doesn't seem like Russia and China and such will suddenly get massive influence and such.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...rnet-saturday/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-t...-the-internet/

I still can't fathom the reasoning for this though.
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Old 10-01-2016, 03:21 AM
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I still can't fathom the reasoning for this though.
There was something a bit incongruous that communications between two countries should fall under some degree of authority of a third country (even if said country didn't use that authority very often*). Getting IANA outside the authority of the US government is something that's been planned for two decades now (though the initial plans were privatization).

Also, keep in mind that this is just the DNS root. The actual top-level domains are still under their previous owners.

It's honestly a bit difficult for me to say what the exact results of this are, because I'm not an expert in the weird organizational structures. From what I can tell, ICANN isn't going to be particularly affected by what governmental structure it's under, since the representative of the Governmental Advisory Committee is a non-voting member. You might see less weird new top-level domains though, since I think that was something the US Chamber of Commerce did have to sign, though even that I only suspect because of some quotes during the .xxx approval thing. ICANN describes itself as "a private sector led, multistakeholder organization", and this change in overlords as

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The transition underway will replace the NTIA as ICANN’s contractual counterparty, aligning the oversight, contract, and “customer” relationships under the multistakeholder community. This is the outcome that the U.S. government, the global Internet industry, and the rest of the global multistakeholder community desire: that ICANN’s new overseer will be the multistakeholder representatives of the Internet technical, operational, and business communities, as intended and defined by the Department of Commerce in ICANN’s bylaws seventeen years ago.

* There have been some exceptions.


Also, I'm not sure if your president actually had the legal authority to stop this if he wanted. The transferring is the result of a contract running out and not being renewed. I don't think any of your governmental authorities is officially capable of forcing private parties to sign contracts, is it? Again, not a business expert.
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Old 10-01-2016, 03:24 AM
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There was something a bit incongruous that communications between two countries should fall under some degree of authority of a third country (even if said country didn't use that authority very often*). Getting IANA outside the authority of the US government is something that's been planned for two decades now (though the initial plans were privatization).

Also, keep in mind that this is just the DNS root. The actual top-level domains are still under their previous owners.

It's honestly a bit difficult for me to say what the exact results of this are, because I'm not an expert in the weird organizational structures. From what I can tell, ICANN isn't going to be particularly affected by what governmental structure it's under, since the representative of the Governmental Advisory Committee is a non-voting member. You might see less weird new top-level domains though, since I think that was something the US Chamber of Commerce did have to sign, though even that I only suspect because of some quotes during the .xxx approval thing. ICANN describes itself as "a private sector led, multistakeholder organization", and this change in overlords as "transfer stewardship of the Internet’s addressing system to its global stakeholders".


* There have been some exceptions.
This move means Russia can get Whitehouse.gov, for example.

Unlikely, but possible
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Old 10-01-2016, 03:27 AM
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This move means Russia can get Whitehouse.gov, for example.

Unlikely, but possible
The top-level domains are still under their previous authorities. So, .gov and .mil are still administered by divisions of the US government.
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Old 10-01-2016, 04:52 AM
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The NSA will be the one ultimately used as the scrape goat for why this is happening but you can bet it will lead to more censorship. No more offending people by challenging their precious feelings and ideas.
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Old 10-01-2016, 05:04 AM
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The top-level domains are still under their previous authorities. So, .gov and .mil are still administered by divisions of the US government.
I dont think they are.

The Protecting Internet Freedom Act Cruz introduced as a bill in June included that, but its not passed.
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