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![]() I don't understand why the Democrats are giving 100% opposition. It is a really short sighted strategy when 10 of them are up for reelection in states won by Trump. They are going to get booted out. Then what will they do if there are over 60 Republican senators?
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![]() They are standing up to Trump because he is crazy and incompetent, they are not going to forget their values and bow to pressure.
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![]() Aaand he encourages police brutality... /golfclap
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It isn't like he gets to stay in office if he only cares about his personal feelings and not the wishes of his constituents. Everyday Trump says he refuses to bow to pressure and upholds his values. The last Indiana senate race had a relatively new fiscally responsible Republican win by 10 percentage points against a prior governor/senator of the state. He can't just put his party above his state if he wants to continue serving. |
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![]() How bout the whole thing and not a sound bite
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![]() I don't think the police are happy just because they want to beat up people for no reason because the police force is just a bunch of sociopaths that need enlightened liberals to micromanage their actions.
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Republicans have NEVER been fiscally responsible. Saint Ron was forced to raise taxes because his policies blew up, Bush wasted the surplus Clinton built and his tax cuts helped make the situation work, and it was deregulation that made the housing crisis happen. Indiana will probably crumble if they keep going right wing economically. Sam Brownback's little experiment is proof that trickle down never works. |
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![]() States like Indiana, Texas, and Florida are doing fine. It is states like California, Illinois, and New York that have people fleeing and receive credit downgrades. No one care about Kansas and you can't just ignore the poverty rates or out of state migration of big blues states into red ones just because one red state seems to not work out. That is like internet confirmation bias except you are ignoring wide swaths of reality.
The rest of the Midwest followed Indiana when it came to fiscal and economic policy. They all elected Republican governors and then voted for a Republican president. That is the sort of idea evolution that our federalist system promotes. Ideas get implemented, they work, and then other states copy them. There is an experiment stage just like the real scientific method and not the sort of circle jerk you see in fake science. |
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![]() I'm really glad that Congressional Republicans are too dumb to figure out how to work together. We'd be in even more trouble than we already are if that were the case.
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A two party system is only slighly better than a single party system
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Here is your full clip of that video linked earlier. Looks like General Kelly is Chief of Staff now. No more Reince Priebus. Last edited by PajamaSalad; 07-28-2017 at 07:11 PM.. |
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As for you're experiment stage......we did elect republican presidents. They ALL wrecked the economy (reagan had to walk back his tax cuts because they did more harm than good and raised the deficit). |
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![]() Do you think no Democratic people voted for him? Or no Democrat people live in his state? Should he just Rubberstamp anything Republicans put out without reading it? Because that is what Republican Senators askes for the other night, they wanted folks to vote on the repeal but wouldn't take questions on it.
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He doesn't have to vote for all Republican things but I feel like the deciding factor in whether or not he is depends on if the vote matters. If the Republicans vote on some pro-police or pro-life bill and it is already at 60 votes he will throw his vote in but if we only need one vote he will side with his party. It just seems like a ploy. His state is a conservative state but he kind of feels like a snake in the grass. He says he has these values but when it matters he sticks to his party. I want to repeal and replace the PPACA because I think it is inefficient and slows down the economy too much. It caused a lot of people's premiums to rise and forced a bunch of people on insurance via threat of a fine that they can't even use. I am not someone that believes if someone can't afford they don't deserve it but I want the states to provide it to the most vulnerable while someone like me can choose the kind of insurance I want. Some of the taxes and mandates are really harmful too. I think a lot of it was just a big gift to the health care/insurance industry. |
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Surely you cant be talking about Gramm-Leach-Bliley? Which is largely agreed to have softened the crisis. The blame for the recession is owned by a lot of people, with the Clinton administration itself holding no small amount of blame by pushing for softer credit and downpayments for midd class families. Of course, the Bush administration failed to keep an eye on the destabilizing mortgage climate, and they own that. But the train was already derailed. They failed to attempt to fix it. Wallstreet itself was fairly careless, the fedetal reserve fucked up after the dot-com bubble, cheapening credit. And of course, people buying shit they couldnt afford thanks to all this new credit
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Republican behavior is to blame Dems for th stupidity they inflict on the stat |
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So if anything you must hate poor people because that's what's gonna happen if rethuglicans have their way (LOTS OF poor people dying) |
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![]() Did you guys know that Joe Biden's son died of brain cancer? Joe almost had to sell his house to afford treatment, but Obama offered him money to help cover the costs. It's a good thing we have healthcare so great that the Vice President has to borrow money to pay for it.
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![]() Holy shit, Suck A Mooch barely lasted a fucking weekend. That has to be a record. This dumpster fire of an administration never fails to amaze me.
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Sounds like Kelly asked for him to be removed. I respect Kelly's service, but he's a big proponent of the border wall, which is a dumb and expensive idea. If you want to stop illegal immigration, it'd be much wiser to simply enforce existing immigration law and defund sanctuary cities. This administration makes me glad I re-registered as "decline to state".
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