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Old 02-02-2014, 10:25 AM
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Dalaran being justified is debatable, but this is not the thread for that.

It still was gray, no matter how 'justified' you think it was. Especially the Horde's POV, which was almost an entirely different purge than the one Alliance players participated in.
Was jaina right of purging dalaran of a group that had sshown favouritism to the horde? or was she too hasty in purging a group that may (in her eyes) have done it. was she being hypocritical? Or should we raise her unto a god akin to sylvanas?
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:38 AM
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She was justified. It was a majority decision of the Kirin Tor to support the Alliance against Garrosh. By helping Garrosh and the Horde using Dalaran resources they made themselves enemies of Dalaran. Aethas is as much responsible by being the leader, his inability to control his people and his looking the other way after learning of it all because he's a spineless little twat.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:42 AM
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Yep, totally justified. I just wish there was a way for Dalaran to be Horde-free in-game now, and to put it back in the crater where it came from.

It could be Southshore-Tarren Mill all over again with the proximity to Undercity...
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:43 AM
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You don't throw away spineless easily controllable leaders: you make sure they are controlled by YOU!! Aethas voted for her to, first, compromise Kirin Tor by sending troops to Theramore and, second, become the freaking Kirin Tor leader, for Pete's sake! A forceful glare and he could have done the whole purge stuff by himself, without jeopardizing YOUR political image!
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:52 AM
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Probably but I'd prefer if there were a lot of innocent Blood Elves caught in the crossfire because that is war, and senseless bloodbaths are needed.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:54 AM
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Yep, totally justified. I just wish there was a way for Dalaran to be Horde-free in-game now, and to put it back in the crater where it came from.

It could be Southshore-Tarren Mill all over again with the proximity to Undercity...
You know what's fun? Due to a glitch, Horde players can go back to Alliance Dalaran. But not the Alliance.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:04 AM
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You know what's fun? Due to a glitch, Horde players can go back to Alliance Dalaran. But not the Alliance.
Probably not a glitch they'll remove. Cause Kosak. He's a sadist.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:05 AM
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Probably not a glitch they'll remove. Cause Kosak. He's a sadist.
Kosak is a sadist who enjoys our tears and us tearing each other apart over a fictional story.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:21 AM
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Orcs are big and scary. Can you really blame Aethas for not opposing them outright and risking Jaina's wrath instead?
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:33 AM
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Orcs are big and scary. Can you really blame Aethas for not opposing them outright and risking Jaina's wrath instead?
He's a worm. Spineless and cowardly.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:34 AM
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Orcs are big and scary. Can you really blame Aethas for not opposing them outright and risking Jaina's wrath instead?
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:36 AM
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Well, it's now been confirmed that the Sunreavers were completely uninvolved in the theft, so I guess you can draw your own conclusions as to whether purging an entire population of innocents on the presumption of guilt was justified.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:36 AM
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:44 AM
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Well, it's now been confirmed that the Sunreavers were completely uninvolved in the theft, so I guess you can draw your own conclusions as to whether purging an entire population of innocents on the presumption of guilt was justified.
"what are you doing? You cant use Kirin Tor resources for the war effort.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:49 AM
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The problem with Dalran - with the Kirin Tor - that differentiates it from any other nation on the world is that it has a mandate to regulate magic. If you were the head of an international agency that existed to regulate nuclear weapons (keeping in mind that magic is considerably more powerful and dangerous than nukes), and you learned that a faction within your organization was involved in selling experimental weapons to a global superpower - one of which had already been used to terrifying effect - you would not only be justified in taking drastic action to purge those elements from your organization, you would be obligated to do so.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:53 AM
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The problem with Dalran - with the Kirin Tor - that differentiates it from any other nation on the world is that it has a mandate to regulate magic. If you were the head of an international agency that existed to regulate nuclear weapons (keeping in mind that magic is considerably more powerful and dangerous than nukes), and you learned that a faction within your organization was involved in selling experimental weapons to a global superpower - one of which had already been used to terrifying effect - you would not only be justified in taking drastic action to purge those elements from your organization, you would be obligated to do so.
If my intention is joining ANOTHER superpower, I'd try to use my "neutral" position to full effect and infiltrate the enemy one through the connections our rogue members have already established. First we need to find out why they think Garrosh pays better than the Kirin Tor.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:59 AM
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Well, it's now been confirmed that the Sunreavers were completely uninvolved in the theft, so I guess you can draw your own conclusions as to whether purging an entire population of innocents on the presumption of guilt was justified.
What the hell have you been smoking? Their involvement was confirmed.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:03 PM
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What the hell have you been smoking? Their involvement was confirmed.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, apparently we need to also sniff the duck, taste the duck, and dissect the duck's shit to prove it's not a pig.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:12 PM
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What the hell have you been smoking? Their involvement was confirmed.
Erm. What?

We now know that the full extent of the Sunreaver involvement was Aethas accidentally finding out about it after it had already happened.

Not that I don't think it's hilarious to watch the Alliance poster base shift the goal posts, mind you.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:18 PM
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Erm. What?

We now know that the full extent of the Sunreaver involvement was Aethas accidentally finding out about it after it had already happened.

Not that I don't think it's hilarious to watch the Alliance poster base shift the goal posts, mind you.
Fanlyr is a Sunreaver, isn't he? Who knows how many collaborators he had?

What we know is merely that their leader was unaware, which means that it wasn't a Sunreaver-leadership sanctioned move.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:21 PM
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Fanlyr is a Sunreaver, isn't he? Who knows how many collaborators he had?

What we know is merely that their leader was unaware, which means that it wasn't a Sunreaver-leadership sanctioned move.
Earlier quests suggest he's a Reliquary agent.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:21 PM
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:22 PM
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Earlier quests suggest he's a Reliquary agent.
Why not both? Sunreavers also have ties to the Horde.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:24 PM
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Earlier quests suggest he's a Reliquary agent.
Afaik, he's a member of both factions.
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:27 PM
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Erm. What?

We now know that the full extent of the Sunreaver involvement was Aethas accidentally finding out about it after it had already happened.

Not that I don't think it's hilarious to watch the Alliance poster base shift the goal posts, mind you.
Way to act like a mouthbreather.
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