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Old 08-16-2012, 02:35 PM
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Maybe it's just that I find the whole "why we fight and it's only the panda people who can teach us to fight for the right reasons like home" really silly when you have a least one side that is fighting to save their homes from the other side that just wants to conquer the entire world.
And again, let's note that the panda people will be fighting to help this other group conquer the entire world while also fighting to defend the other group's homes from the first group. This expansion will mark the beginning of panda people dying across multiple continents, fighting other races and themselves in the same war that's being tacitly criticised by this trailer. Pandaren dying to protect the trees and creatures in Ashenvale, or to gain the resource rights to them. Pandaren dying to subjugate the natives of Gilneas, or perhaps to defend them.

They have no grand unified idea of "what's worth fighting for". They're like the Native American tribes, choosing either France or Britain and becoming extensions of the colonial wars.

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Old 08-16-2012, 02:40 PM
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In other news MoP is Denmark.

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Old 08-16-2012, 02:42 PM
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:43 PM
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:55 PM
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Yeah, I was amused by that as well.

"Man, fuck this guy for breaking up our fight. Let's kick his ass!"
And that's why I like humans and orcs.

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That certainly explains why Azeroth is so messed up.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:07 PM
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He kind of fought both of them and they didn't know what to do, so they fought it. It goes along with the "Fighting is their nature," saying.

The theme here is, "Fighting is in our nature," as portrayed by the orc and human fighting, and then fighting the guy who broke up their fight. And the end theme of MoP will be, "What is worth fighting for?".

Notice how "Fighting is in our nature" is at the start of the cinematic, relating to how it will start, the pandaren breaks up the fight halfway in between, and the two factions attack him instead, ah la 5.1, and the end was "What is worth fighting for," (ah la the world from the burning legion)
The end will be the factions finally discovering what is worth fighting for thanks to the pandaren race breaking up the war.

Maybe great calamity will be caused to the pandaren because of both sides saying "get the fuck out of our way" via destroying their cities? Perhaps the raids of 5.1 will be against both factions, where we the player joins the pandaren resistance to sabotage both war efforts in an attempt to halt the destruction? hmm.

The cinematics always seem to give some spoiler for the expansion if looked into closely. BC had illidan doing the same aggro thing, granted it's not really a spoiler, but it's what we got that expansion.
Wrath was narrated by Terenes, who held his son for the final moments of his life, and helped the players defeat him.
Cataclysm had Deathwing being put together. Deathwing fight has us tearing him apart.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:07 PM
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After watching that Cinematic waaaay to many times i have come to the conclusion that if they showed us that at last years Blizzcon it would have been epic (just how Chen enters).
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:32 PM
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Chen has some quotes in-game based off the cinematic:

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:39 PM
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You people and your Burning Legion.

Introspection, particularly during wartime, carries a profound message by itself. There doesn't need to be some outer space boogeyman to drive the point home. Do you really want Blizzard to basically retell the main WC3 storyline again?

Also, the trailer was pretty tits. It really sets the tone for the expansion.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:45 PM
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Chen has some quotes in-game based off the cinematic:
I think this quote has been in game for very long time already.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:47 PM
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I take it that's the answer for the Kael'thas novel too...
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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I take it that's the answer for the Kael'thas novel too...
Wasn't that just a short story?
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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Wasn't that just a short story?
"Novella," IIRC. Sounded like something in-between.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:51 PM
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I take it that's the answer for the Kael'thas novel too...
I actually do have some news on the Kael'thas novella. I just can't tell you about it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:51 PM
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I think this quote has been in game for very long time already.
The cinematic's script has almost certainly been done for a very long time already as well.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:52 PM
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"Novella," IIRC. Sounded like something in-between.
you recall correctly
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:58 PM
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I actually do have some news on the Kael'thas novella. I just can't tell you about it.
In that case, I'll choose to be optimistic until bitterly disillusioned.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:01 PM
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I just can't tell you about it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:01 PM
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Well, the smile implies a positive news. This or Oma is just having fun with us.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:06 PM
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The cinematic was awesome. Blizzard hasn't let me down with one yet.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:06 PM
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Kael'thas novel coming in 2015!
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:07 PM
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Well I will say this: If you ever encounter Micky Neilson, ask him about it. I introduced him to a lady friend of mine at SDCC and he spilled the beans to her.

If we're lucky maybe we can get something out of him in October at NYCC.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:11 PM
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Well I will say this: If you ever encounter Micky Neilson, ask him about it. I introduced him to a lady friend of mine at SDCC and he spilled the beans to her.

If we're lucky maybe we can get something out of him in October at NYCC.
I never got my autographed Unbroken pic.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:20 PM
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I never got my autographed Unbroken pic.
Oh shit right.

Well he's out today. Maybe tomorrow. You just want the cover art?
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:23 PM
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A Kael'thas story? What's the point of writing him? He's not relevant to anything anymore.
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