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Old 12-12-2012, 05:24 PM
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Darkmoon Card: Twisting Nether Random Lore Talks Thread

We need one, often I think of some lore tidbit that doesn't quite deserve a special thread but also doesn't fit into any currently relevant thread.

So knock yourselves out, post anything lore related you want, in this thread derails are impossible and no topic is barred. Consider it the Lore Forums version of the Spam Thread.


I'll start with an idea I got yesterday, basically it is like the situation America post Civil War, the government tried to shift the bad blood and negative sentiments to a third party by way of engaging in a war against it, that was the war against Spain that followed the American Civil War and it served to unify the two halves of the US.

Same idea here, after defeating the Horde in SoO the Alliance decides that it is better to make a close ally of the Horde rather then a temporarily defeated enemy. So with great pomp they announce the creation of the prophecized Army of the Light composed of the unified armies of the Horde and Alliance and marches it off to battle the Burning Legion pockets in Outland.
There we can get some post-peace bickering and resentment left from the war, instances of "friendly fire" and such might happen as the army annihilates the relatively weak Legion troops. But the plan does work and a measure of reconciliation does occur, and while conducting Burning Legion extermination they find troubling signs of greater plans unfolding.
And just then shit hits the fan and breaks it, the phony AotL finds itself battling a full fledged demonic invasion, they are forced to get a grip on the situation and quickly, then the army sets out to claim the name Army of the Light for real.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:26 PM
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:29 PM
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:38 PM
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:30 PM
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:44 PM
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Honestly, the idea in the op could just fit in the Aftermath of the Siege of Orgrimmar thread. It seems neat, I suppose, though I swing more toward a greater rift between the factions due to the inevitability of more faction conflict.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:29 PM
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Dark Riders of Deadwind Pass

Who are they?
What are they?
What do they want?

I say they are the original Death Knights. I hope it's true when the comic comes out.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:03 PM
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Dark Riders of Deadwind Pass

Who are they?
What are they?
What do they want?

I say they are the original Death Knights. I hope it's true when the comic comes out.
The rumour now is that it is Varkas. The facts seem to add up, even though nothing shows them being worgen.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:17 PM
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The rumour now is that it is Varkas. The facts seem to add up, even though nothing shows them being worgen.
Who is behind them?
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:22 PM
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Alpha prime, but Varkas was planning on betraying him.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:52 PM
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It seems neat, I suppose, though I swing more toward a greater rift between the factions due to the inevitability of more faction conflict.
Me too, but with the Army of the Light forced upon us we have to do some damage control.

Preferably I'd like to see the faction conflict drag on for several more expansions because a sudden and relatively peaceful end to hostilities seems entirely unrealistic.

EDIT: Oh and Sarah, it is np as I've told Bolvar before.

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Old 12-15-2012, 09:53 PM
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I really hope that we get boss journals for TBC and Wrath bosses. I'd like to know what the fuck is doing the Maiden of Virtue doing in Karazhan for example.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:17 PM
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I really hope that we get boss journals for TBC and Wrath bosses. I'd like to know what the fuck is doing the Maiden of Virtue doing in Karazhan for example.
Only 5 mans are even in there for anything pre cata so I'm not sure if we'll get raid lore.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:49 PM
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Only 5 mans are even in there for anything pre cata so I'm not sure if we'll get raid lore.
I disagree. Blizzard may get to it eventually, probably not in the next expansion, but eventually. I mean, Omacron wants to back there for round 2, no?
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:59 AM
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I don't know. For every good entry, there is a sucky one.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:25 AM
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There's something screwy about the Mantid.

I'm not sure if they're descended from the Aqir or not (Occam's Razor would dictate that they are, but I haven't seen any confirmation). Regardless, while the Qiraji were totally working for C'Thun, and the Nerubians are/were totally working for Yogg-Saron, the Mantid seem to be working for themselves. If the Sha are fragments of an Old God, it seems strange that the Klaxxi would revolt against the Empress if the Empress is doing the work of the Old Gods.

I suppose I could see the argument where, if the prime directive of the Mantid is "destroy Pandaria for the Old Gods" and Shek'zeer's fear-driven premature swarm is being viewed by the Klaxxi as wasteful and inefficient, then the Klaxxi employing us to end her makes sense. "We can't do our job of destroying the world if she stays in control. You mind helping us fulfill our goal of destroying the world by taking her out? We'll give you shinies."

I guess it's just a little weird that all of these highly-regimented insectoid cultures (the Qiraji, the Nerubians, and the Mantid all have distinct caste systems and have an ultimate order they adhere to) are supposed to be completely under the sway of the Old Gods, who really make no bones about being 100% about chaos and destruction.

When it comes down to it, when the Klaxxi do a face-heel turn and become an enemy faction we have to kill (mirroring the Zandalari, who used to be neutral but then became hostile for rather thin reasons), it just seems a little odd that we, as the characters, are going to roll over and accept that who our enemies are is dependent entirely on which direction the wind is blowing.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:51 AM
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:04 PM
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The Klaxxi did refere to Azjol'Nerub and Ahn'Qiraj as "sister kingdoms".

Also, as far as I understand, the Nerubians were not serving Yogg-Saron. At least in Warcraft 3, they (represented by Anub'arak) considered the "Forgotten One" a terrible legend and feared it. Correct me if I'm wrong or if later lore contradicts that.
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You know, Garrosh has been conspicuously lacking for the past two patches. Like total silence from him, it is quite peculiar.

What if Garrosh has been secretly deposed by someone?

Consider how he has a weak core as a character and he is dependent on outside support to function, this really makes him easy to manipulate. I can easily see Malkorok or some sinister force or another taking control of the Horde, using Garrosh's name to control the Horde and achieve their agenda.
While Garrosh is a big asshole and deserves to be punished for things we know he did, it is still possible that he is largely innocent of the worst things "his" regime has done. I recall a statement of Blizzard's that MoP may not be the end of Garrosh's character; this would be one way to make that happen.

Not saying that I'd like this, but I just have a hunch something like this might happen.
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Hello !

Before I start, I'd like to apologize for my bad english, it is not my first langage and I'm here only for knowledge !

I've been roleplaying for a while an ex-scarlet crusader that joined the Alliance some years ago, but still holds it's ideals, and I'm constantly interacting with other players about the Lordaeron Case.

The thing is that with humans, it's easier to debate about the matter, but i've been encountering some hardships convincing the other races.

So I'm here needing your help, why would a Draenei, a night elf, a dwarf, a gnome, a pandaren and all the other races take arms againt the Forsaken ? What arguments could my character use ?

For exemple, I can talk about Dun Garok with the Dwarves, but it's still a bit weak.

Ps: The topic is not about scarlet RP or if declaring war against the Forsaken is possible, it's just about arguments for more interaction.

Thank you for reading, and sorry again for the grammar !
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:57 PM
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I don't know. For every good entry, there is a sucky one.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:12 PM
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I just ran AQ again, and I noticed that the qiraji gladiators and swarmguards look like humans wearing insectoid armor. Both have bits of flesh alongside their carapace, which looks strapped on in some places and can come off in the case of the females. The gladiators even have humanoid toes. I wonder how that came about.

They are too small to be cursed watchers. Maybe there is something like the Forge of Wills under AQ, be twisted into a mockery. There is some kind of unseen forge where they made Moam there.
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Do you guys think there might be a connection between the Kvaldir, their mists, and their sea granted powers with Emperor Shaohao and his mists ?
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Do you guys think there might be a connection between the Kvaldir, their mists, and their sea granted powers with Emperor Shaohao and his mists ?
I did at first, back when we got the basic info on MoP, but since we learned where the mists came from now I'm not so sure.
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