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Old 01-08-2020, 04:02 PM
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I see people who identify themselves with the honorable horde side feeling pretty happy and satisfied with BFA.
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Old 01-13-2020, 12:51 PM
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Figured this might be of interest:


On one hand the music, voice acting, and general presentation seem to present Tyrande as pretty blatantly villain-foreshadowing, but on the other hand it frames Genn almost as the voice of reason in how he says Tyrande is right and Anduin is wrong, but then its focus on Anduin's hope so I have no idea where they're going with this.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:28 AM
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On one hand the music, voice acting, and general presentation seem to present Tyrande as pretty blatantly villain-foreshadowing, but on the other hand it frames Genn almost as the voice of reason in how he says Tyrande is right and Anduin is wrong, but then its focus on Anduin's hope so I have no idea where they're going with this.
To me it seems they are switching up the faction thematics. The Horde are now the confederated ones who yet seem to get alone well while the Alliance are in theory unified behind Stormwind but in practice they are a mess of competing wants and ideals.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:31 AM
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To me it seems they are switching up the faction thematics. The Horde are now the confederated ones who yet seem to get alone well while the Alliance are in theory unified behind Stormwind but in practice they are a mess of competing wants and ideals.
So pretty much unpleasant overall.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:35 AM
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Thank you for posting that!

I had a couple of shower thoughts about this. Why didn't Anduin and Tryande speak prior to this? If Baine is committed to peace, wouldn't he at least have tried to reach out to Tyrande? If the writers are so interested about giving us a breadcrumb about the undead Night Elves that no one asked for, couldn't they have done better with explaining the state of the Night Elves now that the war is supposedly over? Is Tyrande going to attack something? What's next? Why did all of these people who golf clapped for the armistice suddenly leaving with Tyrande without so much as a word or a reaction?

Oh who am I kidding, the answer is probably that Blizzard didn't care.

Anduin sounds like he's lecturing Tyrande and comes off as being completely unsympathetic to why she's upset in the first place, but he's still framed as being "right". Will Tyrande be a villain? Will a company deploy as the message of their video game that it's wrong to pacify a state that has multiple times demonstrated that they're only interested in taking civilians for use as target practice, and otherwise will happily engage in genocide on the basis of blood and honor because some whacked out strongman told them to?

Probably. In the meantime, they already told us what Night Elf fans can reasonably expect: a nice pile of ashes.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:16 PM
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:50 PM
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Again... Krainz, have you considered that Skoll and the lot of them are the outliers?
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:16 AM
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Hey Kyalin, I guess they decided to showcase the Night Elves' victory over Darkshore through in-game content:

https://www.wowhead.com/news=309830/...rande-cutscene

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The Battle for Darkshore Warfront reaches a conclusion in a new quest and cutscene showing that Tyrande has retaken Darkshore. Thanks to SInnie_Moon for bringing this to our attention!

We learned at the BlizzCon 2019 Q&A that canonically the Alliance wins both the Arathi and Darkshore Warfronts, so it is good to see some of that narrative development reflected in-game. Tyrande has been absent for much of Battle for Azeroth, last seen clashing with Anduin before undergoing the dangerous Night Warrior ritual to channel the power of Elune and take back Darkshore without the full military backing of the Alliance. We know, based on BlizzCon 2019, that Tyrande's story will continue in Shadowlands, as she investigates why Elune's power was recently diminished.

The following cutscene (note: our older version is WIP, missing sound) and quest were datamined during the 8.1 PTR but did not make it into the game until now. This is available to Alliance players who have completed the Darkshore quests, and A New Hope spawns in the main area of Darkshore where players port in to the north. Simply speak to Maiev while on the quest to trigger the cutscene.

There's been a bit of a mix-up recently with Warfronts where heroic mode opened earlier than intended on EU servers, so perhaps this quest was meant to spawn once Heroic Warfronts officially opened. While we're not sure of the exact reason why the quest spawned over the weekend, it appeared to pop up for players once Alliance started contributions. It is unclear if this quest has spawned on both NA or EU realms, and what is the precise criteria to spawn it.

Darkshore belongs to our people once more, in no small part due to your efforts. And, while I disagree with her methods, we would not have succeeded without Tyrande as well. Differences aside, she is our leader--and an incarnation of the Night Warrior herself. She is about to begin. You may stand here beside me.
Tyrande: Victory is ours this night!
Tyrande: Elune has given us the power to save ourselves!
Tyrande: The Horde burned our forests thinking to kill our hope.
Tyrande: They died for that folly. For our hope resides not in the trees, but in our bonds to each other!
Tyrande: We...are...Kaldorei!
Looking over the crowd, we can identify some Night Elves and Worgen in the background:
  • Named Night Elves include Malfurion, Maiev, Shandris, and Archmage Mordent Evenshade.
  • Some Worgen are present, showing their support for the Kaldorei. The Greymane family is present--Genn, Mia, and Tess--as well as Druid Trainer Celestine of the Harvest and Commander Lorna Crowley.
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