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Maybe in the end Blizzard does not even use "subrace", but a term that varies by race. Like, you choose "Dwarf" or "Orc", and you can then select "Clan". You choose "Troll", then can select "Tribe" (Darkspear, rather than Jungle Troll; Revantusk, rather than "Forest Troll") and so on.
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Second, this is Blizzard we are speaking of. They never use such things just like that, they utilize them to make something "grandeur". Which is why we do not have half these things (Mag'har skins, Wildhammer tattoos, Grimtotem skins) already, they specifically said in the past that they would like to add them in a meaningful way. Which in Blizzard's vocabulary often means blow it out of proportion and make it an expansion's selling point. *Although it depends on what you mean with that much customization. Something I could see within the realms of possibility is, as it probably wouldn't take much more time and resources as making two completely new races together with starting zones and such; 1) An alt-group for each existing race (except perhaps the Pandaren), but no new or unique models, everything using pre-existing player models. 2) A starting experience somewhat longer than intro mini-zones (Northshire, Anvilmar), but not so long as whole 1-10 zones, utilizing pre-existing spaces instead of creating new ones completely. So, for example, the Nightborne experience would happen in a phased Suramar, not in a completely new place. 3) New voices (I don't think that would take Blizzard that much effort). However, the moment you start expecting something like unique models, new models, completely new zones, whatever else, yes, this gets completely outside the realms of possibility. PS: Not saying this will happen. |
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I don't expect any new models, but I do think they may go the extra mile of providing a few heavily altered ones (I'll wager broken and forest troll). As for starting zones, I think that, instead of making a ton ot new mini-start areas, they should just revamp the existing start areas and put the sub-whatevers with the "parent" race, using the revamped story to explain why they are there and integrating them with the parent race. Example: nightborne start in a diplomatic mission at Sunstrider Island, and over the course of it and Eversong, we see how the blood elves and nightborne have stablished diplomatic relations. This would cut the cost of making several introduction zones for races with more than one sub-group, while also updating the parent race current status. This could also double as the pre-expansion event. Will they do it? We will find out in 8 days.
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![]() hey friendos is there anywhere I can go to read a summery of what happens in the new raid? please and thanks you<3
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![]() I seem to remember that the broken use the female tauren model, but do the forest trolls share a model with anything else?
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![]() Nobody's seen the ending cutscene yet so nobody knows what comes out of it.
The individual encounters have their flavour text and voice acting already datamined or in the actual game, so it's easy to look up.
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![]() I'm really hoping if the Subraces are true that the rumors that 8.0 will have another Cataclysm-like revamp are also true. It'd be the best time to really add one. After Legion invasions, and if subraces coming, not only would the world be drastically different, but it gives the subraces a chance to be involved in the story of their parent races.
Aside from that we really just need another revamp. The Cataclysm story probably wasn't the best point, since it kicked off a war, and that specific war has long since ended. Other than that I'd also like if Bronze Flight NPCs introduced us to older expansion content from now on. It'd feel like less of a disconnect. It'd also help explain subraces in older expansion content either as a, 'People will see you as your parent race,' or a, 'No one will remember this anyways since you won't change anything.' |
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There's an unfinished female broken model in the files that use female tauren's, but headless. Argus Broken models are based on standard Draenei's, however. The fact that they went the extra mile of redoing the model, instead of just updating the old one, makes me hopeful that these new models may be prototypes for playable ones. Unlike the old Broken model, the new ones can't equip gear, thought. They could use the new Broken model as a prototype for a playable broken. Even the head animations are ready (you can see two of them "talking" in the Krokuun base, and the Argussian Caste quartermaster also react to your clicks), thought there are a few things that need fixing. A female Broken model could be based on female draenei as well. As for trolls: TBC forest trolls and WotLK Ice Trolls are based on playable troll models. Their body proportions are warped so they appear buffier, and their heads are also changed (Forest Trolls and Ice Trolls have essentially the same body, but different heads; and ice trolls have better skin textures as well). They have animations (including dance) based on playable trolls. I could see Blizzard taking the updated playable troll models and using them as a base to make new forest (maybe even ice) troll models.
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![]() Their avatars were destroyed, but their spirits persisted. And apparently Sargy has been corrupting some and we fight some, free others during Antorus.
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And the last boss of the raid is the world-soul of Argus, which has been tortured by the Legion for thousands and thousands of years and its power allows them to resurrect on the planet Argus, even though they should be dying permanently because it's inside the Nether. Last edited by Asterisk; 10-26-2017 at 10:21 AM.. |
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![]() we kill demons and stuff and then we redeem by killing aggramars avatar, and then we kill/redeem argus and then the titans uses the power of love and friendship and rainbows to imprison sargeras.
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But, about females, they can be based on the female models of the respective base race. I see no problem with a female broken just be made out of the female draenei. And I don't expect female forest trolls to be much different from female jungle trolls. All their models so far in game are just like playable trolls but with different skins. I could see them being getting slightly more muscular or with unique tusks, but not much beyond it. Trolls would require work mostly on males. Would it be cheap? Yeah, a little, but it's not like anyone expects big differences for female trolls. (Zandalari are something I really don't expect to be playable. Some people want it, sure, but, if they are going to spend work on subraces, it will be on the ones that are already well-stablished in lore. Exceptions would be the ones introduced in Legion. I don't think they'll add something completely new at this turn.)
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