My post was mostly facetious, but yeah, you're correct. The fall of a dictator creates a power vacuum, and people either need to be prepared to do the hard work of filling the vacuum (which will take millions of dollars and possibly decades), or allowing chaos to fester.

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See WoW in a way you've never imagined it.

"He came to Ahn'qiraj for the strife... instead, he found a wife! She's my qiraji love-bride, next on Sick Sad World of Warcraft!"

Some people seem to think without that overarching authority there would still be peace and quiet.

We've been effective at it, but American citizens have lost the sense of the long term, they think brashly and quickly, expecting immediate results. A 10 year long conflict was probably a third of what we needed to quell and rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, if not more. Could have been done, but after Obama all the sacrifices of my friends will be for nothing. At the end of the day a soldiers life is just currency, and a war is an investment, when all is said and done, all of you are the ones who decide if our investment mattered.

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I agree with most of what you've said in your last few posts, you just stop short of acknowledging why there is zero interest in "finishing the job" - stability in the region is the last thing that is of geopolitical interest to the US. Neither a Democrat nor Republican government would change that foreign policy, influenced by the lobbies at work.

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El. Psy. Congroo.

I'd just like to say this once miffy, to make something clear. When I take the time to be serious around here which is rarely, I tend to wish to use that time speaking with the adults in the room. Hlaalu, PJ, Genesis, Arm, Mertico, Tainted, being favorites. I'll never want you to stop replying to my posts to express your point of view, but this is just to explain why I will never waste my time replying to yours.

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I don't need your engagement or acknowledgement - my contribution to the discussion stands on its own for anyone that chooses to read it regardless.

Whether you choose to acknowledge and react to points that were made or not.

It is, however, a disturbing tendency here, that is mirrored in a lot of American society today, to block out radically averse opinion and ridicule and antagonize instead of discuss. Not saying you're doing this specifically here, but I think your mindset is reflected in this.

There are some loons that I will always reply to just to make sure their idiocy doesn't stand unopposed - that's just my own issue of not being able to leave well enough alone.

There are other people here that I drastically disagree with on many topics, but I believe one could lead a constructive discussion with nontheless.

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El. Psy. Congroo.

You're damned if you intervene and you're damned if you don't.

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You're damned if you "intervene" against a souvereign country militarily without provocation, regardless.

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El. Psy. Congroo.

This is one of few reasons why I can at least respect you on some level. Can't say the same for the "'murica stronk, giev muh freedums" squad.

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You aren't hurting our feelings you know.

Why do people have to slap these jabs on the end of things, does it make you feel better about something?

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Nah, call it open hostility.

Hurt or unhurt, your feelings couldn't be more irrelevant.

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Seems like a waste of energy to just be a mean guy on the internet imo.

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The big American farce and probably biggest issue in American society is the perception driven by the media and lobbies at play that the numberous unprovoked wars of aggression, in the name of corporate profit and under the guise of fighting the faceless, anonymous enemy threatening the folks at home, are all somehow "justified" in hindsight.

Afghanistan was likely the only military "intervention" besides the Balkan conflict, out of the last 30-40 years, that had any semblance of a justification for it. And even then, an incredibly callous and chauvinistic one.

Americans like to pat themselves on the back and hold on to the belief that "at least the good guys did win, in some form, and some good came out of all this", whether they agreed with the original events or not (and something that is demonstrably not the case, as quite the opposite has happened in all of the affected countries). It's much harder to acknowledge that for the umpteenth time in American history, its public has been hoodwinked into flag-waving, warmongering hysteria for the benefit of a handful in the name of profit, and for the consolidation of power.

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It's about as recreational as hitting a punching bag.

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I like how people will go bat shit insane if you tar one group of people but are okay doing it to a complete other, if you're going to have some guns fucking stick to them entirely.

Edit: I mean American's are literally worse than polio, yeah woo, fuck the Anglo genes. Woo.

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I'm American myself, and as an American it is a true test of endurance to contend with the American belief that we can do no wrong, and that to critisize or question your government and your military is "unpatriotic" and "unamerican".

For me personally, it is never about "the Americans" same way it is enver about "the Muslims" or "the" anything.

Generalizations and black vs white thinking never leads to anything.

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El. Psy. Congroo.

Because you can't get vaccinated against Americans?

There is really no point in arguing with them. They are angry and refuse to see the light.

I hear death works pretty well, and it and it's given out pretty freely in three different colors!



I forgot about Kellick (like Canada), I loves me some Kellick and Noitora, and the Lobster.

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Fuck you.

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We argued with these people before. Sometimes you can't change a wrong opinion through words alone because they will just never listen for what ever reason. When you combined the unreasonable and disruptive is when a more forceful response is needed.

I'd rather live in eternal darkness than have anything to do with your twisted "light".

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You are literally wrong about literally everything and you damage the fabric of America.

Why are you people obsessed with me?

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